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Yep, that's the 5C5. Great amp.
I wish I had a wide panel cabinet around when I built mine. I put it in a Bassman cabinet with a 15" baffleboard. Works well.
My friend's original 5C5 (excellent condition) might be one of the top three amps I have ever played. His tweed 5f11 Vibroverb is also in the top three. A '60 5f6a Bassman completes the trifecta.
Apart from great tweed amps, I am a Polytone/Ampeg guy. I also like good blackface amps. The 50-watt Bassman with the small, 2X12" cabinet from the mid-60s is a great, all-around amp. The Polytone Minibrute IV is also a great all-around amp.
For all this, I tend to play a 5C3 or a Polytone MiniBrute II the most. They are very convenient amps that get the job done.
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12-03-2018 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Greentone
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Tweed Deluxe. Best tone I have ever heard. Head room scared me, after an hour or so of trying one out, once it was hot I don't know how it would go with drums but I want one even if it sits at home. I know why Mick Campbell has one and a Princeton.
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Originally Posted by Greentone
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I use my home-built 5E3 every day to practice. GreenTone was one of the inspirations to build it.
6V6s sound great at home but I usually take out my home-built 6L6 12" Princeton Reverb. It's a beautiful, reliable known quantity. A little more ooph, a nice thick note. (Perhaps not the precise note that I intended to hit but that's another story.)
Horses for courses, right? No losing with these amps! I smile every time I turn one on.
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Sam we are in same wave length. I have a 65 Princeton replica and an Alnico blue 12 inch like the tweed deluxe I played had.
Surprised how warm and clear the Princeton replica is compared to Fender RI. With treble and bass close to 1 you can hear it’s heritage even though it’s different.
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Er...I meant that I play a 5e3 or Polytone on a daily basis. I have a 5C5 and several 5e3 amps and I got the C and the e goofed up. Oops. Sorry Ruger9.
Both the Pro and the Deluxe are great amps. They are kind of different, though. The 5C5 doesn't have the interactive inputs that the 5e3 has--you can use the second volume knob to add body to the volume one input, for example. Also, the 5e3 uses a 12ax7 as a mid-amp and a phase inverter. (The tube has two triodes, so the first triode is used as a second stage of preamplification, after the 12ay7 V1 stage. This feeds the second triode, which is employed as the phase inverter. It's not as balanced as the V3 6sc7 phase inverter in the 5c5, so there is more distortion in the Deluxe than in the Pro in this stage.)
To my ear, the Pro gets cleaner cleans than the Deluxe, though both amps get more than adequately raunchy when overdriven. The overdrives are different. I'd describe the Pro as "bluesy," while I'd call the Deluxe a "Rock" machine. (Neil Young plays a 5e3 on about 11, for example, on "Cinnamon Girl" and other songs.)
FWIW, Fender intended the Pro to be a steel guitar amplifier for professional musicians in country and swing bands. They expected the Telecaster players to use Super Amps.
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See, while the interaction on the 5E3 volumes sounds really cool.... everything else sounds really cool on the 5C5. When talking tweeds, I like the sound of "bluesy" (I'm guessing smoother, less raunchy?) more than "rock". I've got a rock amp, I'm looking for something to go from clean to gritty blues.
I'll need to do some research... I'm sure 5C5's are tough to come by... and most clones I'll assume are of the '57 variety...
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Ruger9,
Another amp to look for is the 5c3. The wide panel Deluxe is like the octal Pro in terms of smoothness.
It also has a negative feedback loop in the power section that adds a high fi quality to the clean signal.
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Originally Posted by Greentone
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Originally Posted by rhoadsscholar
The Dlux I have is similar in some ways to the Victoria 35115 (tweed pro) I used to have. And wish I still did. The tweed pro is one of those perfect amps, at least to my taste. The mids knob comes in mighty handy, and with old 5881 power tubes, the sound is wonderful.
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Originally Posted by ruger9
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Originally Posted by wzpgsr
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Ruger9,
I have one 5f2 amp that I built. I think the Princeton is a very nice tweed amp. Bigger cabinet than the Champ (5f1), with a 10" speaker (in the instance of the amp I built). The circuit is single-ended, like the Champ, but it features a tone control--which I like a lot.
This amp is very nice for home use.
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Originally Posted by Greentone
I realize the 5E3 is probably more versatile, especially when you start talking about dirt or volume, but again... just a nice home amp I can put a nice reverb pedal in front of. (a good example, altho blackface, is the Princeton Reverb... but I'm looking to "experience" the tweed circuits, as I haven't yet)
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Ah...
I generally use one of my 5e3 amps the most. If you get a 12" to 10" adapter you can use a Weber 10a150 speaker or equivalent. It will tame the bass a bit and give you a great sounding archtop amp.
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I get them from Mojo Tone:
Mojo Baffles >> Baffle Converter for 12'' to 10'' (black)
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Tweed is good for jazz, indeed.
After years of blackface and Polytone practice I went back to a tweed: a boutique Princeton 5f2a (with a 12").
No need for more, plug what you want, it sings. Tele neck pup and P90 are welcome.
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I need to buy a Victoria Ivy League in the future, that amp keeps calling my name
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Originally Posted by patshep
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I used to gig with a Fender Harvard. It and the various clones are outstanding amplifiers.
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I’ve been using my brown face Princeton (not too different from a Harvard) exclusively for rehearsals and performances lately. What an amp.
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Originally Posted by Greentone
Last edited by wzpgsr; 11-09-2019 at 01:22 PM.
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Originally Posted by wzpgsr
If I ever wanted a real tweed (a tweed Pro has always called my name, as well as a brownface PR), I would call Lil' Dawg.
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Originally Posted by rhoadsscholar
I assume the op has found something by now.
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Originally Posted by JCat
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