Ibanez Pat Metheny Signature Model

[willschmid97]

Finally a Metheny model that is actually modeled after the guitar he currently plays. Looks awesome, but I'm not the biggest Ibanez fan. I am a big fan of Pat's though.

[pingu]

Spot on aesthetically for me .............

A new Classic

[falcon_az]

Beautiful guitar... to be sure.

[PTChristopher]

Looks great except for the awful D'Aquisto block-of-wood tailpiece - but that's an easy fix.

Thanks for the heads-up.

[pingu]

ooops

[richard vandyne]

Anybody have a price on this one??????????????

[M-ster]

Looks great except for the awful D'Aquisto block-of-wood tailpiece - but that's an easy fix.

Agreed. Otherwise, looks nice.

[docbop]

All the videos I see Pat's pickup is a little away from the neck so not quite the same.

[disco~juice]

Yeah, as doc said, the pickup in Metheny's guitar is not that close to the neck, like his old 175.

[JazzVocab]

MIJ as far as I know, got one coming to the shop soon!

[helios]

All the videos I see Pat's pickup is a little away from the neck so not quite the same.

Just reaffirming what you pointed out--in this older video with keyboard player Lyle Mays, the neck pickup is about an inch away from the fretboard on Mr. Metheney's Ibanez:

[newsense]

Here's one they already fixed for PTChris !



This is the lower spec PM2 which sells for around $1000 (£650 in UK). The PM200 is around $3500 - seems like a significant hike in price for just a wooden tailpiece. Apparently it has a "Silent" pickup instead of the Super 58 on the PM2. The specs don't mention whether it is solid or laminate, which usually means its laminate.

[kris]

Looks great except for the awful D'Aquisto block-of-wood tailpiece - but that's an easy fix.

Thanks for the heads-up.

Looks like tailpiece in the Peerless guitars...:-)
Also Gotoh tune-o matic /large/-nice bridge.

[pingu]

Thats Pats old prototype Ibanez made for pat from a FG100 body with 'prestige' neck he liked I believe

All these 3 guitars have the PU under the 24th fret position

they just have different nos of frets 20 or 22
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[3625]

The headstock looks ungainly and the Shazam inlay, oh my. It isn't quite the same as Pat Metheny's Ibbie axe, is it? Pat's Ibbie really looks like a D'Aquisto.

As for the block of wood tailpiece, I guess different strokes for different folks. I kinda like it.

Is it MIJ or MIC?

+1 on the headstock inlay, just ridiculous. As for the D'Aquisto tailpiece, I've always really liked them from the moment I saw them.

I played the PM thinline model with the two pickups and double cutaway, not my style of guitar but it was exceptionally built and set up, and even unplugged had that Metheny tone to it. Fretwork was flawless, and the pots just felt amazing. I was definitely impressed by this axe.

[pingu]

Ibz used that tp on the old JP20 Joe Pass guitar
good guitars .......... but had the pu a bit nearer the bridge approx 27th fret

so slightly brighter sounding maybe

[Bluedawg]

The headstock looks ungainly and the Shazam inlay, oh my. It isn't quite the same as Pat Metheny's Ibbie axe, is it? Pat's Ibbie really looks like a D'Aquisto.

As for the block of wood tailpiece, I guess different strokes for different folks. I kinda like it.

Is it MIJ or MIC?

When I looked into the Metheny models before, I think they offered both MIJ and MIC ..

The MIC where much less expensive. The MIJ isn't cheap.

For the current models the PM 200 is Japanese. There is a PM2, with the wire tailpiece, and the web site doesn't say where it was made ... which could mean China. Not sure.

I'd love to have one of these myself.

[Bluedawg]

Here's one they already fixed for PTChris !



This is the lower spec PM2 which sells for around $1000 (£650 in UK). The PM200 is around $3500 - seems like a significant hike in price for just a wooden tailpiece. Apparently it has a "Silent" pickup instead of the Super 58 on the PM2. The specs don't mention whether it is solid or laminate, which usually means its laminate.

Everything I've read suggests that Pat is a fan of laminate guitars ... he prefered his old 175 to the L5s he had access to in his early days.

I've always considered this to be an Ibanez version of the 175 with Pats prefered modifications ... For what that's worth.

[x10u8]

A general comment on perception and Ibanez guitars... I used to worry a lot about how a guitar looks. And, it should look nice - with quality workmanship, attention to detail, etc. Over recent years though, I have fixated on how it plays and sounds. Buzzes and poor action drive me nuts. And, I've always been leery about guitars made in China or Korea, etc. But, again, in recent years, I think quality has come a long way. Case in point - I purchased my first Chinese guitar last year. An Eastman El Rey 2. I was totally surprised at how well it played. NO buzzes, low action, albeit a bit of a wide nut for me at 1.75". But, it's a beautiful guitar, and well made. Which brought me to my purchase of my second Chinese guitar. An Ibanez AF105. I just purchased it from Steve Zook (the Polkzoo Youtube channel) for a very fair price. He seems to carry a lot of Ibanez and similar price point guitars, as well as some higher ... and lower end instruments. So, that may be a place to check if someone is looking for something. I was nervous about it, but he was helpful and honest and got the guitar to me quickly and intact. I digress... my point is, I think these (Ibanez) guitars are a good value. Even if one can't afford a Pat Metheny model, some of the Artcores are really quite decent! My AF105 is comparable to my Gibsons IMO. And, at a fraction of the cost. I suspect Pat Metheny's name is on there for a reason. Hehe.

[rpguitar]

Regarding the pickup, it's physically in the same place. Pat's guitar (as pictured from that concert) has 20 frets. The ones pictured in catalogs and so on have 22 frets. The pickup is flush with the end of the neck when there are 22 frets, and when there are only 20 frets, there's a gap between the neck and the pickup - where the remaining frets would go. Tone quality should be the same. Why the difference between the marketed product and what Pat plays, I don't know.

[Jazz_175]

What is the body depth of the pm200, compared to the Gibson 175?

[helios]

PM200


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neck type	PM Mahogany set-in neck
body	Maple top/back/sides
fretboard	Bound Ebony fretboard w/Pearl & Abalone block inlay
fret	Medium frets w/Prestige fret edge treatment
number of frets	22 frets
bridge	Gotoh® GE103B bridge
tailpiece	PM tailpiece
neck pu	Silent 58 (H) neck pu
string	Flatwound strings
case/bag	Hardshell case included
Neck Dimensions	Scale 628mm/24.75" a : Width at Nut 43mm b : Width at Last Fret 57mm c: Thickness at 1st 21mm d : Thickness at 12th 23mm Radius 305mmR

Body Dimensions

a : Length 20" b : Width 16 1/2" c : Depth 4 1/4"

ES-175
Near-perfect RecreationThe modern recreation of this great guitar made by Gibson’s Memphis Custom Shop craftspeople owes its lineage to the ES-175 of ’57. The body is a comfortable 16-inches wide, 20-inches long and 3-inches deep with a curly laminated maple top, back, and rims. There’s multi-ply binding on top and single-ply on the back, with nickel hardware including a ABR-1 bridge and a trapeze tailpiece. Three finishes are available: wine red, antique natural, and vintage sunburst.
The Custom Shop ES-175’s one-piece mahogany neck supports the same 20-fret rosewood fingerboard that the guitar’s always offered, with beautiful pearl split parallelogram inlays, single-ply binding and the distinctive, comfortable classic ES-175 neck profile. Scale length is 24 3/4-inches with an 1 11/16-inch width at the nut. The tuners are vintage tulip s

[Jazz_175]

So it is 4 and 1/4 " vs the 3" of the 175 !
I already wished the 175 were less deep than it is now.

[NSJ]

4 and 1/4 " deep? Wow. pardon my ignorance, but what other guitar is that deep?? What's the point of this? I mean, it's a laminate plywood guitar, no?

[kris]

Maybe this guitar sounds really good...