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Bluesbreaker that sounds cool and really alive. Play that puppy like you never need an upgrade!
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08-23-2021 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by deacon Mark
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Enjoyed the sound of you and your L-30 very much!
I like small bodied archtops and have had or played L-30's, L-37's, L-47's and older 14.75" L-50s and they all can be variable. In fact even though they had a Gibson sound and similar build, I always found each to have something unique.
That's true of many 16" and 17" Gibsons of the era as well.....there will always be some that shine brighter.
A little L-00 sized 14.75" flat backed Gibson archtop of those times was made to be affordable, and some can be unimpressive.
Others are nice sounding but on the quieter side, or sound perfectly good depending on one's expectations, use and the musical setting.
Yours does sound exceptional and of course your playing and miked audio setup is a factor.
There's nothing lacking there.
I always look forward to picking up another L-30 to hear what it's got.....
....lately it's been all about little Epiphones.
Well those and and a couple 17" L-7's and a nice ES-300!Last edited by zizala; 08-24-2021 at 08:28 AM.
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Originally Posted by zizala
Totally agree, they are all different which I think is part of the charm of vintage guitars in general. I enjoy experimenting with the recording set up and I'm planning to try two mics next, one at the 12th fret and one at the f hole and then mixing the two. Most of what I have done so far has been super simple but sounds ok to me.
Talking of little epiphones, would love to try a small body olympic like the one Dave Rawlings plays. I bet those 17" L-7's are special. I've always wanted a 16" L-7 but they're not so easy to find and prices seem to be increasing all the time.
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Originally Posted by Bluesbreaker
> Something (ranging from a cell phone to a Neumann) placed somewhere near a guitar that your ear is highly unlikely to ever be
> Some processing -- EQ, compression, reverb
> Compressed into a block by YT
> Reproduced on your computer sound-card
> And made audible by your rich, resonant 2" computer woofers
In short, it's a potentially reliable reflection of which notes on the instrument can play without clanking and a nearly-useless document of how that guitar would actually sound if you played it in public.
In contrast, your instrument in your hands in your 100sf music-room ought to sound as good as you can make it.
And it will always sound a lot different when you are out standing in your field.
But we're bound to keep trying, and we do.
Happy hunting!
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I've been playing for about 60 years, and I absolutely cannot look at a guitar, knowing its age or not, and predict what it will sound like. Every one is different.
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Very true!
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I got this from a friend, who did his best to rescue it after a couple of lifetimes of torture. It's an amazing player. I had an under the saddle transducer installed, and I hate it. It fails to capture the voice of the instrument.
Thoughts about a DeArmond Monkey-on-a-Stick solution?
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That is a an elderly and venerable instrument. The MOAS would be my go to for that. Congratulations on a real classic!
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That is a an elderly and venerable instrument. The MOAS would be my go to for that. Congratulations on a real classic! [/QUOTE]
Thank you! My friend is an old surfer with quite a collection, mostly non-archtops. He was happy to entrust this one to me, and I'm glad to be able to enjoy it and keep its story going.
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Bearing in mind that no amplification captures the full acoustic sound of a nice instrument.
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Originally Posted by Cunamara
I'm kinda jaded/broken anyway? I've played the saxophone and flute forever, and I've worked with some really loud groups. Most of the interesting stuff seems to vanish from acoustic instruments once they're amplified. And the irony stares me in the face as I type this: why did I want to amplify this guitar in the first place...
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Nice to see an old L-30 that's been well used, maybe abused but lives on....glad you're enjoying what it does.
I used to have a couple of these some time ago and miss them.
Without an elevated fingerboard extension a DeArmond wouldn't have enough forward clearance to fit very close to the neck.
Probably could be situated somewhere midway between the fingerboard and the bridge.
But a DeArmond being a magnetic pickup would give the guitar more of an electric than an acoustic amplified sound.
That said, old DeArmonds can sound great!
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I agree doesn’t look enough room for a Dearmond pickup on a stick.
Looks like there are only 3 good options for amplification:
1) Transducer, which you have—try to coax a good sound of it with a good DI and/or amp
2) Mic
3) Set in pickup
I have some friends in a kind of skiffle/blues band who both have old Epiphones and routed out holes for some DeArmond foil pickups, and they sound AWESOME.
Of course that would involve cutting into the top of this guitar, though there may be some options that mount directly to the top. OTOH, it’s not like a pristine closet queen either.
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Wow, thanks for all of the knowledge and guidance!
Originally Posted by zizala
Originally Posted by Doctor Jeff
Originally Posted by pcjazz
Again, thanks for all of the knowledge and guidance! I wrote up a little introduction to myself (located elsewhere), and I can't overstate the thanks: even though I've been lurking forever, this knowledge base has really guided lots of my guitar choices. I'm so glad I finally joined.
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Cool guitar! Lace makes an ultra slim humbucker for this style of archtop that sits on the top. If you’re interested, call Lace and ask Gabriel (the manager) about it. He’s very knowledgeable and a really nice guy - and I love their pickups.
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Originally Posted by nevershouldhavesoldit
Just saved the link. Thanks!
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I put a clingon mic on my L50 .Its cheap . Sounds okj to me. Mickmac
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Originally Posted by nevershouldhavesoldit
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Originally Posted by rsclosson
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I love to see a guitar that has been highly used. Be respectful of it, it may not last more than another 50 years!
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Originally Posted by Marty Grass
OTOH--if it ain't broke don't fix it. I'm sure Willy's Trigger could be restored to some degree, but that wouldn't be a good idea, would it?
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Originally Posted by Marty Grass
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