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Originally Posted by edgrissom
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11-22-2022 07:51 AM
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it depends of the time I will take to hear the melody (if I like it a lot it will be easier), If I hear and feel rythmically the melody, I know that it won't be too long to understand melody and chord changes for me.
And then, a long story can start between the tune and me, but that's another story.
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Until I feel I want to spend time on a different tune or a something different.
Then I'll come back to it later.
If you teach a total beginner, you don't teach them Three Blind Mice and then refuse to teach them Mary Had a Little Lamb until they've completely mastered Three Blind Mice.
It makes more sense to just have have them spend reasonable amount of time on each song, and all their songs are going to sound pretty bad anyway.
You still give them new songs so that they can enjoy the journey more easily and they will progress regardless of which songs they work on.
Yes, you can argue that for total beginners that songs are used as a tool to get acquainted with the instrument and music in general, while "we" spend time on a tune because we want to know the tune. But I still think that the time spent on each tune should be somehow within reason.
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If it's a keeper . . . a lifetime. I first learned "Body and Soul" in 1964 from a fake book and still play it, occasionally, today. However, it is not the same arrangement since the music changes as you change and reflects who you are as a person at any given stage of your development. And, how I played it on saxophone is, also, very different from how I play it on guitar. When I hear someone say they learned "My Funny Valentine" in a week, I find that humorous since they could have only scratched the surface of the song, at best. When I do a new arrangement today, it takes about 3 months to get it into working shape and, then, a succession of ideas/nuances that follow, seemingly, forever. Our Music reflects our level of musicianship and who we are as people. It is fluid, not static. Such is Life.
Marinero
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Originally Posted by Christian Miller
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Originally Posted by edgrissom
"Ok, my solo is coming up what shall I do?"
"I know, licks 145, 258 and 346, that'll do it!"
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Jimmy bruno said burn the Real book and avoid scales and theory...Buddy said `i walked through Berklee once`
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Originally Posted by voxo
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I bought my first "Fake Book" in 1964. I still have it today. The power of the "Fake Book" is that it gives you the skeletal structure of a song. It is a valuable tool for any serious jobbing musician.
Marinero
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Even when soloing I most often leave space for others to play fills like the bassist and the drummer (they will play them anyway). Leave some space, play with the band not over it.
Some inspirations: I hadn't listened to Dexter Gordon in some time, and had not heard Kenny Burrell's recording before this morning. Thanks for cuing me to look!
And then I found:
Wow.
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You nearly always come back to tunes, many times. You know when it's time to move on because you'll either not be playing anything new, or you'll get bored with it. How long it takes to get to grips with a tune, interpret it, and be able to improvise comfortably for 2 or more choruses probably varies from person to person. Personally, I can spend weeks on a tune. If you're going to record it or go out and play it in public, you usually need to spend more time than might think.
Moffa Mithra
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