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Thanks again for all the advice. I spent the weekend on trying to dial in tone only.
What I’ve learned.
1. A Telecaster will *never* sound like an acoustic archtop. It’ll sound like a Tele with the tone rolled off. Not bad but definitely not traditional in my ears. I think the tone I am most familiar with is an acoustic, hollow, woody jazz tone. A Tele is not that.
2. Same thing Les Paul.
2. A 5e3 (Tweed Deluxe) can work but it might be slightly too boomy for that application. The single tone control is just a treble roll off. The bass in that amp is what it is and sometimes it is too much. Not really a ton of control.
3. A 5f1 (Champ) in my case a 5f1 in a Deluxe size cabinet with a 12” speaker and a passive tone control will work but at 5W is pretty quiet.
4. A thicker pick at 1.5mm worked well.
5. 11-50 Flatwounds made a big difference.
I am thinking of more appropriate amplifiers with more control over the tone options. I did try a Klone (KLON) to boost the mids by raising the gain and it was so-so.
So thanks again and if you have any more advice, please feel free.
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08-16-2020 08:36 PM
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Get a decent solid state amp. I don't like tubes for many reasons, especially Fenders. The boomy bass is one of the reasons, but there are more. I own a Fender tube amp, but I rarely bother to fire up my crane to lift it out of the closet. A decent amp that produces a flat response works much better for me. I really like the DV Mark Little Jazz. It's small, light, and relatively cheap, and sounds better than my Fender. But there are many, many other choices. And yes, neither a Tele nor a LP will sound like an acoustic archtop. If you want that sound, you need that guitar. That said, check out Tim Lerch, especially his video on how to get a jazz sound out of a Tele.
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Originally Posted by Mike R.
Originally Posted by Mike R.
And as someone else mentioned, the great-uncle of Tele playing jazzers:
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Some folks get caught up in honing that dream solo jazz guitar sound in the bedroom. Then they get a chance to play with others in another environment and realize it sounds all muddy and boomy because they've tweaked their gear for playing by themselves in the bedroom/living room.
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Originally Posted by cosmic gumbo
What sounds good in one situation may not sound good in another. What sounds bad in the first set sometimes sounds good in the second set, IME.
But, we don't often talk directly about which gear is the most flexible.
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Originally Posted by cosmic gumbo
What I am finding is that all that bass passing through *might* step on a bass player. It isn’t needed in a trio or quartet situation. Coming from the background I am (not jazz) my 5e3 is generally used with a light overdrive and other effects that cut bass but add their own tone. This is what I wanted to avoid here. I want minimal to no effects in between guitar and amp.
I am thinking of a parametric eq to roll off that low end boom.
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Originally Posted by cosmic gumbo
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