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I have been fooling around with the guitar for a long time, picking up some info here and there. Still I have a lot of holes in my knowledge of the instrument.
Time to fix that! I want to learn once and for all:
- Where the notes are on the fretboard
- A modicum of sight-reading, so I'm not pecking and hunting every note on a Real Book chart, for example
- Some music theory, chords, etc.
What is some good method book that I can use to learn "the basics", so I can then proceed to learn jazz guitar?
Thanks in advance!
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01-14-2011 12:48 AM
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Check out JonnyPac. He presented his newly published book here, which I ordered. It covers chord building, modes, harmony etc. I am a relative beginner who has had not previous music theory training, and have in my posession several books. I honestly feel that his orderlyness and systematic approach has been good for my. Check out some of his exemples on this site, that ought to give you an idea as to its value for you. Cheers and berst of luck 0zoro
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Thanks for the plug, Ozoro! My book covers the building blocks to create most of the voicings you'd ever need. I hope inspire folks to fearlessly create coherent melodies and harmonies from the fretboard vantage point. It's a good theoretical suppliment to what you are after, though a good CM workbook would benefit you as well. Good luck. PM me if you want to ask questions. Thanks!
JonnyPac
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For improvising/soloing with chords, the Joe Pass Chord Solos book.
Amazon.com: Joe Pass Chord Solos: For Guitar, Vibes & All Keyboard Instruments (0038081001630): Joe Pass: Books
You can check out the first page at Amazon to see what it's about.
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For me, the Pat Martino book Linear Expressions really helped get my phrasing together, I warmly recomend it!
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Currently, I'm working on Jazz Guitar Structures by Andrew Green. The book is helping me strengthen my sight reading, especially up the neck, and the arpeggio patterns he lays out are familiar from other books I've read. Micky Baker's book is great for strengthening the left hand (or right hand for the lefties among us) and smoothing out chord changes.
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Originally Posted by Timbell
It should be remembered that the MB books are from 1955, as well. They predate almost all jazz schools, most modal jazz, scales and modes as the centre of a guitarist's thinking, and so on.
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thanks johnross, I had not heard that side of the opinion on baker's books. I am really looking for a book that will give me the guidelines of playing jazz guitar. I can read music (needs work), play the chords, and sometimes connect them with arpeggios and such while comping a tune. Not having real guidance by an instructor that I trust makes me concerned my time practicing and studying is not benefiting me as much as it could be.
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Originally Posted by JohnRoss
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IMO....Mel Bay to learn the concepts of the guitar and how to come to terms with it...
Mickey Baker for into to jazz concepts...
Bill Leavett (sp) from Berklee..all three books are to be on your bookshelf..
Joe Pass..for the intermediate to advanced student...
Others are Howard Roberts...Ted Greene...
Check out Jamie Aebersolds website and well as Bet Ligons...much there at both..
Time on the instrument...pierre
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I've been thinking that it's "Whatever is the latest book you've bought".
Why? Well- I just bought "Charlton Johnson - Swing & Big Band Guitar ", and this simple book and CD has done more for my swing and rhythm playing in a couple of weeks than anything else I've bought-and I've bought a good few books over the years! The difference in the sound, playing rhythm with these chord shapes verses the big 5-6 note voicings I've always done is astonishing. Even on something simple like "Beyond the Sea". Leaves loads of room for piano and brass, but really sounds full with bass and drums. Hooray!!
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there are so many books out there, i don't think that any one book is the holy grail.
the Leavitt series and other Berklee jazz guitar books and videos are excellent. you could stop right there and be in pretty good shape - but there's no need to and you shouldn't anway.
others that people seem to think are valuable;
M. Goodrick
Mickey Baker
Mel Bay - numerous books here
Barry Galbraith books
Musician’s Institute
Don Mock
Steve Khan’s book on Wes Montgomery
Books and videos from the top artists: Pass, Hall, Johnny Smith, Benson, Martino, McLaughlin, CoryellLast edited by fumblefingers; 05-08-2011 at 06:37 PM.
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Originally Posted by fumblefingers
a) the Leavitt books do not teach jazz. Sorry, I know I've said this more than once before, but I believe the only time the word 'jazz' is used in the three books is to name the jazz melodic minor scale. They are probably unsurpassed for turning someone into an all-round pro-level guitarist, but not a jazz player, not on their own, at least.
b) without the structure of a full-time course, the benefits anyone less than a high-intermediate player is going to get out of them are likely to be outweighed by the discouragement of failure to progress.
c) the Leavitt fingerings are debatable. They will always get you out of a sticky situation, and everyone should learn them at some stage, but they are not 'guitaristic,' and if you follow them to the letter you will fail to get the best out of the instrument. Vibrato, for example, is severely impeded, so are bends, etc.
d) there is almost no worthwhile music as such in the entire series. Heaps of exercises, a few functional solo pieces and duets that sound as if Leavitt made them up on the spur of the moment (I don't imagine he did, really), OK, but practically nothing anyone would really want to listen to. Which is, after all, the point.
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Originally Posted by JohnRoss
i hear ya, but i think that Leavitt's point for all those jazz guitarists studying jazz, playing tunes and studying improv - was that all of those studies were not specifically teaching the guitar. i think he was right. his books still stand because of it.
i think it's very important for a user of these books to remember that they were used as part of a 4-year music conservatory curriculum that included:
1. private study with a teacher (tunes covered here)
2. ensembles (tunes covered here)
3. improv classes (tunes covered here)
so if an aspiring player studying on his own skips the above 3 things and only plays what’s in the 3-7 Leavitt books..... they are really missing the point.
in other words, method books are not to be confused with repertoire.
an analogy would be - doing drills and workouts but never playing a sport. playing the game is the real deal. drills raise your capability to play your best.Last edited by fumblefingers; 05-09-2011 at 09:34 AM.
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Originally Posted by JohnRoss
I think JohnRoss's criticisms best apply to the melodic/scale portions of the book. I think his chord lessons are sequenced beautifully for beginners, and they are definitely jazz. If you just went through and played the "Chord Forms" and "Chord Etudes", they voice lead well and teach you how to deal with jazz fingering issues in a way I haven't seen in the other books I have. The chord etudes are particularly helpful in dealing with chord melody fingerings. I think the book gets bogged down in the scale fingerings.
As far as incorporating real music, I'd love to see any jazz method that fully integrates real jazz standards from the beginning. Can you imagine? Start out learning basic comping and soloing over "Fall Leaves" or whatever they'd want to call it. Learn the basics, but in the context of actual music. Who wouldn't want to learn that way? Then, on to the next tune to learn some new voicings etc. Somebody needs to write that book.Last edited by matt.guitarteacher; 05-09-2011 at 09:47 AM.
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Originally Posted by matt.guitarteacher
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others that people seem to think are valuable;
M. Goodrick
Mickey Baker
Mel Bay - numerous books here
Barry Galbraith books
Musician’s Institute
Don Mock
Steve Khan’s book on Wes Montgomery
Books and videos from the top artists: Pass, Hall, Johnny Smith, Benson, Martino, McLaughlin, Coryell
I would add David Baker's bebop vol. 2 to this list - if you memorize a new bebop lick every week you will advance very rapidly and this book is loaded with them.
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Really, none. I got baker's book, never really got through the lesson 4. Baker's book is good but its a much more entry level book than was suggested to me. My advice skip the first section. By the time I'd got baker, I was well versed in vocings and really if you have some theory of what a chord is constructed of, it will be very redundant.
My advice would be to get a book exclusively about chords and/or progressions.
I also had Danny Barker's book's, very very thick, and a first volume which is all pretty much redundant again('bebop scale').
Get a good book on chords or progressions. All other books, are really just, advice or someone's analysis of the playing style, which could probably be picked up by you by listening to a lot of jazz.
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I am going to keep on recomending a great book that helped me over the stage of knowing all the arps and scales but notbut not beingable to turn them into music.The book is called an introduction to jazz soloing by the musicians institute and is very down to earth and focuses on using chord tones AND CONNECTING THEM WITH CHROMATIC notes.To me this seems to be the most underepresented jazz book on the market..Oh and no i didnt write it just in case you wondered,but some commission for promotng it might be nice if your listening MI.
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Hey guys!, so i was contemplating picking up the jody fisher books, but they all have tablature which im trying to avoid!, ive just started the world of jazz guitar, my guitar technique is quite good but theory wise im on "modern method for guitar (william leavitt) Vol I"
so i would like find a book that doesnt have any tablature so i can challenge myself
thanks
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Um, buy Jody's books and ignore the tab! He has several greats books -- don't avoid them!
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There is a book on Django called "Django Reinhardt: the Definitive Collection" which has notes and tab for a lot of his work. Can be found on Amazon.
Last edited by revmcintyre; 04-21-2012 at 07:35 PM.
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I suppose if you got black construction paper you could cover the tab.
There are quite a few books on jazz guitar. I'm only familiar with a few of them. If you stated more what you are hoping to get out of the experience, I think we could make better book recommendations.
Honestly I think your best bet is getting the Omnibook, some great records, and the Advancing Guitarist.
There are so many books on jazz guitar voicings it makes my head spin, so I can't help you there.
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The two books by Doug Munroe and Talk Jazz Guitar by Roni Ben-Hur
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