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Originally Posted by fep
I remember this etude from 25+ years ago when I went through the book. It's a killer if your pick technique isn't already advanced. And I gotta say, working these pieces up to performance level (or almost!) is showing me what a HUGE amount of Leavitt's method I completely missed. This is a marvelous way to approach the books. I think Leavitt would absolutely approve. I also think this way just might facilitate better learning than that which the Berklee students get - especially if we review the material regularly, as they are told to do, but probably don't.
I'll send you a ham at Christmas, Frank.
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04-14-2012 10:45 PM
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Kojo, I take some comfort that one *can* use this book for technique, without getting everything perfect. In the spirit of sharing, I would like to share my efforts from a few nights ago:
endurance limits.mp3 - File Shared from Box - Free Online File Storage
This is slower than I normally play it, and I discovered that slower is definitely more difficult.
The only thing I can say with some pride is this is easy on my pinkie. With the shape of my hand it just fits nicely on that fret without strain, and it's not like it has to move at all!
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Originally Posted by ten left thumbs
Of course, I didn't mean that any of us *should* go for a perfect recording of this thing - no! I'll bet you this, though: if we keep coming back and back, reviewing the material as we're supposed to, I'll bet that you'll play it flawlessly, every time, before you know it. If that is a goal for you, I mean.
You're sounding fine now, though. Your guitar sounds really nice - what is it?
Kojo
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Thanks kojo. My guitar's a Freshman - big, solid, strummy thing. Has a lovely tone, but awkward as anything to play. I'd love to get myself a nice wee archtop, however they don't seem to come cheap.
As for Endurance Etude, my learning curve with picking is fairly slow, so I know I'm in for the long haul.
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Howard Roberts once told me, during a private lesson, that playing a ballad slowly "separates the men from the boys" and is more difficult to accomplish. I think I agree with him as it is definitely harder for me to keep good time when playing a slow ballad.
wiz
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Originally Posted by ten left thumbs
Michael Kelly guitars made a SOLID WOOD (Spruce top, flamed maple back & sides, beautiful guitar) - called "Heirloom archtop" - had a little floating humbucker, so cool. It's 16", so has a big sound, but get this: the nut width is 1 5/8"!!! It's like a broom handle! I love skinny necks.
The company mis-marketed these terribly, and sold very few. They are still around, though - usually $899 USD. Well worth it, w/hard case. I want one BAD. I have a bunch of pictures a dealer made and sent me -- they'll make you drool, but if you have an email address you don't mind sharing, I'll send them along. His daughter is holding the guitar in a couple pics, so it's easy to judge the size. My mail is kojo.27 At the g-mail darttccomm thing. (Spam bots steal real addresses, so you gotta fake 'em out.) You can send your email address to mine - only if you wish, though.
kj
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Originally Posted by wizard3739
Did he study formally, Howie? Did he die wealthy, from GIT?
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Originally Posted by ten left thumbs
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Pages 48 and 49, Endurance Etude.
I just couldn't get my head around this one for some reason.
Pages 48 and 49, Endurance Etude.mp3 - File Shared from Box - Free Online File Storage
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Originally Posted by ten left thumbs
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Originally Posted by oldhead
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Originally Posted by oldhead
kj
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Bravo oldhead!
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Originally Posted by fep
Originally Posted by Kojo27
Originally Posted by ten left thumbsLast edited by oldhead; 04-16-2012 at 12:55 PM.
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I fell apart this week gang and had some personal issues occur that prevented me to be able to practice like I needed to. I will be reviewing all of this material to bring it up to better play. I had a sucky week and it shows.
Endurance Etude
Endurance Etude picking etude no 3.mp3 - File Shared from Box - Free Online File Storage
Speed Studies
I was only able to memorize the first pattern in the 2nd postion but am able to slide it up a fret to play in the other keys.. I went ahead and played all the patterns in other positions so the pattern would repeat better rather than the open position. I still have to memorize the other two patterns. I can read them no problem at a slow speed but playing fast is impossible unless I get them memorized like the first pattern. On the second pattern i forgot to sharp the F. I flubbed around as well on some of the notes. It was all I could do just to get some practice in and get these recorded and uploaded. Hoping some things turn around for me. Keep me in your prayers.
Speed Studies pg 46.mp3 - File Shared from Box - Free Online File Storage
Rhythm
Rhythmn Accompaniment pg 47.mp3 - File Shared from Box - Free Online File StorageLast edited by Will Glen; 04-16-2012 at 11:01 PM.
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Originally Posted by Will Glen
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Hi Will, Sorry to hear you've had a rotten time. Your recordings are amazing, especially Endurance. Now, I'm going to give advice above my pay-grade here, but for the speed studies, while you are playing fast, it is not in as much control as necessary. So for example, at the beginning, you are accelerating slightly through the exercise. You will get more out of these going with a metronome. So, you find the tempo at which you can play in control and without mistakes, and you play like that for a couple of days, then up the tempo by 5bpm at a time. The tempo may be different for each exercise in each key, some are harder than others.
Sorry to be so boring about tempo. I play with musicians who just go faster and faster and it's frustrating. They can't seem to hear it.
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Originally Posted by fep
Do this with any melodic pattern, in any scale type or arpeggio - anything you play, really - but these patterns lend themselves especially well to drilling on the solfege syllables and sounds, imo.
kj
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Originally Posted by Will Glen
Maybe you can tell, but this sounds wonderful to me. In this piece, I like how you let the high G drone relatively quietly - it sounds great that way. Very, very pretty. I have to ask about your guitar: man, it's a good-sounding instrument, and recorded well, too. An acoustic archtop? Good job of tuning, as well.
Speed Studies
Whoa! I doubt I can do them so cleanly at these tempos. Very impressive. Sounds like you've spent a few hours in the woodshed - Sounds like fairly strict alternate picking, too - yes? No?
Rhythm
Good job again! I love good rhythm playing - sometimes I think I admire a fine rhythm player more than a fine soloist. I've huge respect for the backup maestros.
All sounds good - play on!
Keep me in your prayers.
kj
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Originally Posted by Marty W
You have a nice, even tone here - I like that a lot. I don't have any real criticism - sounds good!
kj
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Originally Posted by Will Glen
Speed studies, Thanks for letting me into your home. I think those tempos are fine as you are playing cleanly. Just some more practice if you want to and you'd play them with no little mistakes. I prefer to just practice the patterns (i.e. not the exercise) as I discussed above.
Rhythm Accompainiment, really solid with a good sound. My only nit is on the first one you choked some of the chords so quickly that I think I was only hearing muted strings. Sounded really good that way though.
Will, sending positive vibes your way.
Edit - oops it looks like my signature is giving you a B+ grade, I'm really trying to say B Positive (my new blood type).
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Thanks everyone for the well wishes and I believe I'm back on track. Appreciate the thoughts you all.
Originally Posted by oldhead
Originally Posted by ten left thumbs
Busted! Back to the metronome.
Originally Posted by Kojo27
Originally Posted by Kojo27
Originally Posted by fep
Anytime Fep. I'll take a B+ brother anyday! Thanks for listening and take care. Looks you guys are having some fun in that other study group. Good job man.
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Hi everyone, I had another go at endurance etude.
https://www.box.com/s/c05b26b8408adc16e642
This is a fair recording for me - I've played it better, I've played it worse. When I visualise the notes clearly, I get them always. Every mistake is a mistake of mental vagueness, not finger problems.
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Originally Posted by ten left thumbs
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Originally Posted by ten left thumbs
You know, this piece is so lengthy and so arduous, I find myself almost cheering the player on as the 3/4 mark comes around - "Go, go, go!" Ha! I dread it in a way (playing it), but I look forward eagerly, as well. I've lately changed my right hand approach to less wrist and more elbow (I know, boo, boo), so we'll see how that works on THIS thing.
Play on, Laura!
kj
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