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Originally Posted by JazzIsGood
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05-07-2023 11:57 PM
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It’s far funnier to troll Italians by casually mentioning how much you like Hawaiian pizza
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One might be surprised at the kinds of pizza that contemporary (or at least as of ten years ago, when we last visited) Italians eat. Though I confess we didn't see any pineapple-ham combos.
But about bop/bebop--maybe playing "Salt Peanuts" at 200+ bpm has become a kind of historical-recreation exercise, but the technical/harmonic/rhythmic elements of that tune and its historical-stylistic cousins are still alive in jazz, even if not generally present in a chemically-pure state. But then, no style remains chemically pure, and some elements persist strongly enough to make applying an older label appropriate. It certainly makes sense to me to call the group I sit in with "boppish," even if their influences/heroes include Bill Evans and Herbie Hancock and Miles as well as Parker and Gillespie. (And where does one place Monk?)
Every artistic tradition I'm aware of includes centers and peripheries and practitioners* who occupy those metaphorical spaces--and those spaces themselves stretch and move, taking some practitioners with them. If there are no longer clubs where chemically-pure bebop rules, the elements of bebop are clearly available all over the jazz world. (For that matter, how many clubs remain--and how many were there to begin with?)
* And where there are audiences there will be practitioners--and vice versa.
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Italians are VERY clear when it comes to pineapple on pizza
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Originally Posted by Christian Miller
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I think bebop has evolved. Mike stern. Julian lage. Still play it. But not like Diz or Trane. And honestly I’m glad they don’t. Because why would I listen to asinine versions of the great boppers when I can hear the originals?
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Originally Posted by Tal_175
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