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If nobody plays bop anymore, what's all the fuss with Barry Harris?
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04-27-2023 08:12 PM
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He's dead. But alive in the bebop era and a 'real' bebop musician. Plus he invented his own method which still interests some people. That's what most of the fuss is about rather than his recordings.
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Originally Posted by ragman1
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I've just said what it was. Or did I edit before you saw it?
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Originally Posted by ragman1
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Right, sorry. I could explain the idea quite easily but it might be a lot simpler if you googled it yourself. Personally, I find it confusing to implement although there's a certain logic to it.
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Originally Posted by ragman1
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Originally Posted by sgcim
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...and isn't it like that you don't play real be-bop, but you learn on real be-bop...?
I guess that's the whole truth.
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Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
But this is all a red herring. Lots of pro players will say “and now we play a bebop tune”. That doesn’t mean they only play bebop ever. Why would anyone want to limit themselves to something from the past exclusively?
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I think there are some great players these days who clearly play bebop. No it is not 1940s bebop because we're not in the 1940s.
My teacher for example, playing his original 'I'll remember Jimmy.'
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Isn't playing be-bop sometimes a limitation of possibilities?
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Originally Posted by AlsoRan
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The bebop language underpins most modern/contemporary jazz phraseology. So in a sense everyone plays bop. Except some die hard swing and trad players maybe.
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Originally Posted by Jazzjourney4Eva
and fifteen years ago there was like 10 people at his workshops in London. Now he’s a meme… even certain YouTubers who were dismissive of Barry a few years back on this very forum are suddenly making videos about him. Hmmm. I’ll assume they’ve seen the light haha.
As far as recordings go… he is also one of my favourite jazz players of all time.. that dark tone, that sly swing..
Last edited by Christian Miller; 04-28-2023 at 03:57 AM.
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does Django have anything to do with be-bop?
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These guys preserved it!
The Be-Bop Preservation Society | Discography | Discogs
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Originally Posted by Christian Miller
Last edited by Tal_175; 04-28-2023 at 08:04 AM.
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Originally Posted by kris
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Originally Posted by Jazzjourney4Eva
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Originally Posted by Jimmy Smith
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Originally Posted by Tal_175
But there’s a reason why most jazz players education takes in bop.
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Originally Posted by Christian Miller
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You need the right gear to play bebop.
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Listening to Charlie Parker should be compulsory for all wouldbe Jazzers. To my ears, it's the DNA of all small group Jazz that came after.
I'm still listening and learning from Charlie Parker and always will be.
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