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That's me playing modes - all the right notes just in the wrong order
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11-16-2020 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by greveost
So who are you arguing with?
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I don’t buy this theory, which is only prevalent on this guitar forum, that pianists play in such a way that one can’t determine one chorus from the last. Who the heck are you listening too? Might this simply be pianist envy because it’s renowned to be the greatest instrument from classical to jazz? There’s no need for such envy.
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Originally Posted by 2bornot2bop
I was replying to you and what you wrote.
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Originally Posted by grahambop
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Reading through the bickering here, I think most arguments about jazz can be ended by simply saying "Louis Armstrong".
Much as anyone may or may not love jazz guitar, the historical reality is it was primarily a rhythm section instrument, if it was present at all, and not a driving force in the evolution of the music. That's why Charlie Christian was such a big deal. Big Band era, BeBop, hard bop, cool jazz, avant-garde, guitar is not a huge presence.
Arguable, of course, but the point is, if you only listen to guitar players you would miss a lot of jazz. One of the reasons I focused on my other instrument, trumpet, so much when I first started, was it's relevance to the music I was into. That, and in modern times, it seems like everybody plays guitar, anyway.
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That was then; this is now. Bands are smaller and amplification is better than in the swing period. We have seventy years, or more, of virtuoso playing as our guide. Besides, the guitar is so important in contemporary music that it would be perverse for jazz to ignore it.
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Guitar def has become a much more prominent instrument in the jazz spectrum over time. Big thanks to rock, etc.
Benson, Metheny, Scofield, McLaughlin didn't get popular/well known while sticking exclusively to their jazz background.
There are tons of really fine Jazz Guitar players these days. Incredible playing and stuff. Somehow, though, I feel that bird has flown. A lot of music has become so heavily guitar saturated and used in a thousand different ways, genres, sometimes I just have a difficult time hearing it as an instrument itself and rather just a faceless tool. Even the classic sounds and setups seem so cliche. I guess a lot of contemporary music is just rehashing old stuff. Rambling........
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Originally Posted by arielcee
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Originally Posted by Litterick
Actually, just BECAUSE there are so many great sax and piano players in Jazz, and the history is full of them, the guitar is STILL pretty much unexplored territory (well, almost, at least in comparison to piano and sax).
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Originally Posted by Litterick
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