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My all time favorite thing is Chinatown theme from the movie. There are several versions but I dig this the most. Love the piano there so much.
Love Theme (From "Chinatown"), a song by Jerry Goldsmith, J.A.C. Redford, Carl Allen, Kenny Kirkland, Reginald Veal, Terence Blanchard on Spotify
Imho, there is not so much reason to be a fan or hater of some generic thing in music like genre, instrument or player.
Sometimes this happens but I think its much easier to appreciate individual pieces and not worry about liking the entire catalogue...
But to OP, these things may take time. I hated to listen to 3x90min tapes of classical music for exams so much that I grew to kinda hate the whole thing.
Not hate.. but you know, I avoided listening that in my own time. 20 years later and I have my car radio on classical channel and its such a pleasure now.
Same thing happened in jazz college. Now, after finishing some years back, I love to hear jazz guitar solos that "talk". Not into anything crazy... at least yet
That is quite common, we've discussed this with some friends (non-musicians) - they get a bit older and tend to skip pop and rock and also get to like those.. hm.. more complex and sophisticated things more and more.
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11-14-2020 04:57 PM
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Piano’s a funny one. A blank canvas as an instrument, kind of a machine, not particularly expressive (well more so than a harpsichord), but many great artists have somehow transcended it to an extraordinary degree.
It must be funny not playing your own instrument on tour or in the studio... let alone having to create your own distinctive sound on whatever the piano de jour happens to be.
I have a lot of favourite pianists.
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Originally Posted by Marcel_A
But Corea's Acoustic band playing is not his best work. Corea from the later 70's with his recordings featuring Steve Gadd, Eddie Gomez, Joe Farrell etc. were about as good as it gets. His later stuff didn't move me as much, but his earlier stuff was nothing but brilliant.
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"If it's blasphemy, then stone me."
Lawson you?
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Personally, I love it all. I appreciate and respect the technical capacity and musicality that's required to play any instrument exceptionally well. To say you've heard all of what's to hear from someone in 10 minutes sounds a bit ignorant.
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Originally Posted by wintermoon
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Originally Posted by Marcel_A
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Originally Posted by 2bornot2bop
I hope you do not consider it ignorance when someone simply does not share your preference. We have had enough, I think, in recent days, of people treating those who differ from them as if they were somehow deficient. We are all different. Neither you nor I have been appointed the arbiter of good taste in music. I've made a point of stating my feelings here strictly as my own personal impressions and reactions, not judgments.Those who play guitar but don't actually like the guitar puzzle me, but that's their life and I can still respect them and enjoy their contributions.
I hope you are made of that same stuff.
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You can dislike the piano and you can dislike Beethoven. Both are within the range of possibilities.
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Originally Posted by lawson-stone
Last edited by 2bornot2bop; 11-14-2020 at 05:51 PM.
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156 Million find this so boring that they listen to it over and over again. It's probably only the most recognized piano piece ever written. And just when you feel you've mastered it musically, you recognize, oh, I still have some work to do.
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Artur Rubenstein’s recordings of the Chopin Sonatas. Give a whirl on the ol’turntable. The dynamics of his playing, and the music, are beatific.
You know, Tal Farlow ‘copped’ a lot from the classical world. He was always looking out for something different harmonically that he could fit into his bag of tricks. Faure was a fav.
My point is, without seeing through the eyes (hearing through the ears) of other musicians, instruments and genres you are only cheating your own musical education. Which is why some guitarists will never be more than a guitar player, and others become musicians playing the guitar.
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I can understand the Oscar Peterson being boring. Great player but, as Lawson Stone said you've heard what he has to say in about 10 minutes.
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Originally Posted by arielcee
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Originally Posted by jazzkritter
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"But to suggest the piano is boring was a stupid comment, IMO"
not a stupid comment Greg, it's boring to him
not everyone has to like piano. I like listening to certain players but never had any desire to play it, it's way down my list of what I'd like to play if I didn't play guitar.
now, organ? sign me up. I never learned to play and sold my B-3 a couple years ago, always wanted to have one in the house and it was easy for organ players to come over for rehearsals. kept one of my Leslies though and it's hooked up to a small portable Hammond now. The old B was just taking up too much room.
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Originally Posted by wintermoon
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Originally Posted by 2bornot2bop
This is not about you, sir. We don't all have the same frame of reference, we don't all share the same aesthetic sensibilities, we don't all enjoy the same jokes, find the same women attractive, or like the same foods. It doesn't make anyone ignorant or arrogant or deficient somehow. It just makes them what they are.
Which kind of fits what I've said about the piano. The lack of limitations can engender a kind of imperialism that crowds out other voices. You love the piano, it's obvious. That's great. Others don't. That's great too. Can you see that without putting on the lenses of a value judgment against the others' different sensibilities?
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Originally Posted by lawson-stone
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Originally Posted by 2bornot2bop
The very problem, for me, with the piano is that in fact it IS the entire orchestra, except only the notes. No strings, no woodwinds, no brass, just padded hammers striking strings. But it can cover all the notes. But it isn't the same. Dvorak's "From the New World" can be played on piano. But who want to hear it? I want to hear the Boston Symphony Orchestra play it.
Funny how sometimes the voices calling most for diversity often react the most negatively to the fact of actual diversity.
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screw the piano, I can’t believe no-one’s mentioned the bagpipes yet.
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Also good friends, I've said my peace here on the topic, or off-topic, as the case may be. I don't want to inflame passions excessively, so I'm happy to sit down and be quiet. I don't have anything else of use or insight to offer. People of sophistication, talent, character, and principle can see matters vastly differently, and that makes for a truly engaging community.
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Originally Posted by lawson-stone
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Originally Posted by grahambop
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Originally Posted by 2bornot2bop
How many guitars and amps have you owned?
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