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Jazz is what they played at whorehouses in Storyville to be the party music for drinking, screwing, and doing dope.
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06-25-2019 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Cunamara
But I’m Allan’s case I’m not certain he would have been overeager to pigeonhole his music. While he had many jazz influences he also had classical ones, and presumably some rock influences (though he didn’t talk about that in the interviews I’ve read)
Anyway I get the distinct impression rockers are largely ambivalent about Allan. I think of him very much as a jazz improviser who made music ranging from the distinctly jazz to the very much prog rock, but that’s true of quite a few musicians of the era.
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Originally Posted by cosmic gumbo
The Mahogany Hall Stomp, played by Louis Armstrong...
Louis Armstrong - Mahogany Hall Stomp - New York, 05.03. 1929 - YouTube
IMO, gypsy jazz is the purest surviving form of the real thing. A lot of what they call "jazz" now is only distantly related to it.
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Originally Posted by cosmic gumbo
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Originally Posted by strumcat
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Originally Posted by ragman1
John
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So it's old-style racy whorehouse music which a lot of over-educated white folks are giving themselves brain damage about because they're bored with pentatonics...
I get it :-)
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Originally Posted by cosmic gumbo
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I can tell you what jazz is definitely not - what happens when you teach a bunch of beginners chord scale relationships....
So my definition of jazz will always have to do with the rhythmic language. The harmony and melody is all shaped by that, and is negotiable in terms of style...
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Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
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Old lady: "Oh, Mr.Waller, what is this you call swing?"
Fats Waller: "If you haven't found out by now, mam, you never will."
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Originally Posted by ruger9
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It's kind of like sex. You might reach a certain age where you still remember how, you just can't remember why. You can do a whole doctorate on the "how" but it won't help any. You have to get back to the "why". Then the "how" falls right in line behind it. There might even be some good stuff in that doctorate you worked so hard on. The rest of it you can just keep around for laughs.
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This thread is heating up :-)
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When Beaumont uses words like antithetical you know something's happening...!
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Originally Posted by cosmic gumbo
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You will, rabbit, you will... :-)
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Originally Posted by ruger9
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Louis Armstrong“If you have to ask what jazz is, you'll never know.”
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Jazz, Black and White by Gene Lees is full of insightful anecdotes. Here is Cedar Walton, recalling his time in Art Farmer and Benny Golson's Jazztet: “Later on, Benny and Art agreed that there was too much music in the sextet. Sitting there reading, it was unnatural: you needed to just come out and play."
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Originally Posted by christianm77
Here's an example of hard swinging jazz with awful lot of rhythm and almost no melody and harmony. Go to 9:10 to hear it.
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Originally Posted by strumcat
...ever the intrepid adventurers.
Oh! The sacrifices we make for the sake of ART.
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Originally Posted by rabbit
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I remember Pat Martino explaining that "jazz is a state of courage".
..... and i totally agree with the master.
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'I feel that jazz is not so much a style as a process of making music.'
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