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Originally Posted by grahambop
Classic!!!
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05-23-2015 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by kris
Did they practice it for 5 or 10 years?
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Originally Posted by vintagelove
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Originally Posted by kris
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Originally Posted by vintagelove
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Originally Posted by kris
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Originally Posted by pamosmusic
if somebody love classic have not time to practise jazz stuff in porffesional way.
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Originally Posted by kris
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Originally Posted by pamosmusic
what about creativity...
Playing jazz for me is like composing music in real time.
everyone can be a composer?
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Originally Posted by kris
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Originally Posted by kris
Yes if if they practice it. Whether anyone likes what they compose is a different matter all together.
The reason your classical playing friend is struggling is he is new to improvisation. If he works at it for ten years, chances are he will be decent.
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Originally Posted by pamosmusic
They want but it is only a dream.
it is completly different world - classic and jazz.
anyway I know some "jazz" musicians that have problems with swing and right time.They also practising a lot...:-)
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Originally Posted by kris
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Originally Posted by kris
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It's always a dream. Do you think they could just PLAY classical music because they just dreamed about it? They took lessons and practiced, probably for years. They listened to their heros play classical music and dreamed all the while. Why do you think jazz, improvising or composing is any different? Dreams and desire have to be followed by the correct estimation of effort in order to see through to the realization of your dreams. Always.
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Originally Posted by pamosmusic
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Originally Posted by kris
Blues is a life long study just as jazz is imo.
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Originally Posted by henryrobinett
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Originally Posted by kris
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i can't think of a single challenging endeavor that "everyone" can do. i think that we have to accept that some people are..... uncoordinated as hell.
some people just don't seem to have any pitch or rhythmic sense whatsoever (even though they have internal rhythms). and when they discover this, they tend to give up quickly. and they probably don't care.
it has been my observation that some level of talent, and enough desire to push through difficulties, are critical. even with that, some will only ever be D, C, or B players. so what of the "A" players? many of them don't compose or improvise with any distinction.
great art seems to be quite elusive.
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The saying that you either have it or you don't is a myth.
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Originally Posted by fumblefingers
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No one asked whether one could play or write well. That was not a question I heard or responded to. But I also don't think talent necessarily is the determining factor there either. Maybe it is. But hard work is. And one needs to work beyond the mere instrumental work. One needs to read books, walk through museums, forests, mountains, have monumental love affairs. One needs to experience life and envision it in works of art.
Last edited by henryrobinett; 05-23-2015 at 12:52 PM. Reason: typos
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But, being able to play Jazz to a high level, like the pro's, Herbie Hancock, Pat Metheny etc, is a lifetime's commitment, dedication and I feel it needs genuine talent.
Last edited by GuyBoden; 05-23-2015 at 02:15 PM.
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I do believe everyone has it in them to play good improvisational jazz music-, something personal, rhythmically, melodically, harmonically and theoretically sound. It's just that sometimes it takes more than a lifetime to find and then remove the things that stand in our way.
' seems the older one is the more difficult it is to believe it can be done. Just my observation.
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