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... death.
See below
Funny, isn't it ?
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04-11-2015 04:05 PM
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Interesting. I wonder how it would shake out if age (at time of death) was taken into account.
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this is only one level of information so it's difficult to tell what's behind the numbers, but if one had to guess i would place the odds on:
accidental death being driven by drug overdoses or impaired automobile driving accidents - for punk, metal, rock.
heart related death is driven by a bad diet, being obese, smoking and drinking - for blues
cancer is driven by smoking and drinking - for jazz and folk.
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"Figures don't lie but liars figure." You just gotta figure out how to stay alive!
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Originally Posted by fumblefingers
As for accidental deaths of musicians (mostly jazz)
Drowned: Albert Ayler, Jeff Buckley, Randy California, Eddie Costa,
Car accident: Leon "Chu" Berry. Clifford Brown, Helen Carr (-o, the irony!), Stott LaFarro, Billy Stewart, Calder Spanier (-hit by a car), Frank Teschemacher
Bomb explosion: Al Bowlly
"Botched operation": Eddie Lang,
Plane crash: Glenn Miller
Shot by family member / spouse / sweetheart: Marvin Gaye, Lee Morgan,
Fatal injuries from club brawl: Jaco Pastorius, Chano Pozo
Boating accident: Art Porter,
Hit by a train: Woody Shaw
Gun accident: Lem Winchester
By the way, where does tuberculosis fit in on the scale in the OP? Jimmy Blanton, Charlie Christian, and Fats Navarro died of TB.
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We could call an actuarial and get some more data.
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I'm kind of doubtful this chart is very scientific. It just looks like your typical facebook bullshit post to get likes or people talking and/or arguing.
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Originally Posted by MarkRhodes
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Originally Posted by fumblefingers
I would like to see more of the backup data myself.
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I agree with the above post. If you look at the cancer rate among rap and hip hop...they don't live long enough to develop cancers. While the homicide rate among them is higher because of youth and the environment in which the came from.
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Advances in medicine have helped too. Some jazz musicians died of pneumonia, for example. That's still possible but it's less common now due to antibiotics.
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Originally Posted by Frethack
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Originally Posted by fumblefingers
By the late 1980s Shaw was suffering from an incurable degenerative eye disease and was losing his eyesight. Details of the accident are unclear, but on February 27, 1989, Shaw was struck by a subway car in Brooklyn, NY, which severed his left arm. Shaw suffered complications in the hospital and died of kidney failure on May 10, 1989.
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As Conan the Barbarian said when asked for mercy by an aggressor, "Death is a mercy of sorts..."
In the case of some people, given the state of their life, I kind of find this to be true.
I had a coworker who was in a horrible marriage, with stepkids that were ungrateful and always in trouble, step grandkids that did not respect him, a mother-in-law that he helped take care of who had dementia and was aggressive towards him, and an unfaithful, alcoholic wife that would not work but spent his money faster than he could make it and constantly told him how worthless he was. He also had many stress-related health problems since he worked 3 different jobs at age 53 and no kids of his own. After being diagnosed with cancer by the doctor, he said he actually felt relief. His last few months he really seemed at peace and after he passed on, his family predictably fell into ruin fighting amongst each other since then no longer had him to pile on.
(Sorry - could not resist)
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Originally Posted by AlsoRan
or doctor to Bill Evans... Bill if you don't stop getting high you will die soon! Bill to doctor, if I don't get high I can't play, if I can't play I want to die!
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Originally Posted by MarkRhodes
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Originally Posted by docbop
Interestingly I can't play unless totally sober. Even one beer screws up my chops. I must not have enough chops.
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Originally Posted by Cunamara
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Originally Posted by docbop
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Originally Posted by fumblefingers
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Originally Posted by docbop
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Originally Posted by fumblefingers
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Well, it seems quite fitting that the blues cats mostly die of a broken heart (y'know, cuz their baby left 'em, etc.)
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their baby done left 'em.
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They didn't " woke up this morning".
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