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Originally Posted by TieDyedDevil
I think the best chance of seeing the future of jazz is to draw a line through its past and see where it points.
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12-02-2008 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Jazzaluk
I don't understand how examining the history of jazz gives on the ability to extrapolate the future of jazz. The jazz "style" does not, as far as I can discern, follow anything resembling a linear progression. There are all sorts of twists and turns. Could anyone in the 1950s, for example, have predicted Mahavishnu Orchestra or Return to Forever?
I'm beginning to get the impression that jazz - like many other genres - is defined by its practitioners who self-identify with the genre by citing influences (regardless of how much the player does (or does not) pay homage to his/her predecessors.)
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Originally Posted by TieDyedDevil
In this sense, I think Jazz grows like a tree with many branches but the number of branches is finte. Other styles of music also grow like trees and in many cases new branches emerge that draw upon Jazz as an outside influence.. but if you trace the music to its roots you will know from what tradition it is connected.
As far as "self-identifying", I think you are absolutely correct. This is everyone's personal way of connecting to music. You can play jazz with a rock influence or you can play rock with a jazz influence but it is usually pretty obvious where the roots lie when you hear the music. Of course there are some who simply transcend all genres, which is a differnt subject.Last edited by Jazzaluk; 12-02-2008 at 03:31 PM.
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The very interrogative form (what is jazz?) is based upon an assumption that there must be an essence, a single immutable and transcendent quality about the perceived phenomenon, that is to say, about jazz, love, nation, war, arts, life, or ... the universe in general. Of course, there is (yet) another legitimate way of asking for knowledge: what is jazz consisting of? Here, the basic premise is built around the beliefs that everything is in motion and that the historical description stands as the only valid approach in aligning all the transformations into a consistent (developing?) tradition of forms, techniques, methods, aspirations ...
In brief, the answers would be, respectively, as follows: jazz aesthetics (the essence) or jazz history (the contents).
Actually, at first all I wanted was to recall from the not too distant past the outrage (and the ensuing debate) provoked by Bill Frisell's Nashville - the Best Jazz Album of the Year according to the Down Beat magazine poll (in those times even the title of the album sounded as mockery). Then again, I am old enough to remember the outbursts of that same outrage when Jimi Hendrix and Frank Zappa became the Hall-of-Famers in that same jazz rag. Things are truly changing ...
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hi there
why do You waste so much time on asking or academic definitions?
make music that makes you feel onto yourself
pardon, I don't know
You know?
A lot of words, why?
sorry
Hubert
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ja sicher
tempora mutantur
oder suum cuique
aber cui bono?
aber Du willst ja eigentlich gar nichts "wissen"?
hab ich unrecht?
Hubert
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Originally Posted by hubert54
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