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I had many years of jazz guitar lessons, from early days in high school all the way to university. The end result - I became a confused and failed jazz guitarist.
One day, I decided to up-the-ante on my transcribing. I went from outlining simple relative chords and melodies to transcribing voicings and accompaniment (rhythm.) I also learned by ear chord melody arrangements and was successful at decoding the puzzle. I did this for a few months. The end result - I am now actually playing rhythm, comping, chord-melody, tunes like a real jazz guitarist.
Here's a small sample size of my transcriptions...More of these to come.
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01-04-2020 08:51 AM
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I guess it was a showcase for you chord skills without too much intense rehearsal for this recording.
But just a friendly advice - start working on your rhythm and timing if you want to play jazz for real.
Or else.. you'll get to a point where you'll wish to have started with that many years ago already.
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Originally Posted by emanresu
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That’s cool that it’s helped. Thanks for sharing. I honestly don’t understand the necessity for false dichotomy though...
Why the “vs”?
Was the problem really an over-abundance of lessons ...or merely a deficiency in transcription? False dichotomy is the number one logical fallacy on the forum.
A vitamin deficiency isn’t simply the result of too much exercise or too much sleep. They’re all important but may also largely separate issues.
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Originally Posted by Jason Sioco
My two favorite players: Jim Hall studied music in college. Wes Montgomery did not.
Not every player learns the same way. Not every teacher is effective.
It is true though, that just about everything you need is on recordings, if you're capable of learning that way. Most of us aren't capable of learning everything from records -- and profit from other kinds of lessons.
For many jazz guitarists, reading standard notation is important. How do you get that from a record?
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Originally Posted by matt.guitarteacher
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Here’s the thing, because I don’t necessarily agree but I’d need more info. If your situation is that you weren’t learning jazz appropriately through lessons but we’re having success transcribing by ear, I can’t help but point out that listening will always be the number one way to learn something as opposed to trying to learn a music you don’t listen to. Since you mentioned going to lessons to learn Sabbath tunes I’m assuming jazz isn’t your number one choice of listening. So, if you are trying to learn jazz and not listening to it regularly, and I don’t mean studying one song your teacher told you to listen to, then lessons are a huge waste of your time and money.
If I’m not correct and you regularly listen to jazz then I still disagree to a point. I do not take lessons and I haven’t in many years but I don’t learn exclusively from transcribing by ear. The lions share comes from ear but I need websites like this to put the pieces together and learn how I can make original lines and not regurgitate everything I transcribed. I’d love a teacher but I don’t have the ability to commit to weekly lessons.
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