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One man's opinion....
https://www.ethanhein.com/wp/2014/th...gression-ever/
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07-22-2020 05:03 PM
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hah...emotions are completely subjective...but have to hand it to the guy for his presentation..well done
i was expecting pachelbels canon
cheersLast edited by neatomic; 07-23-2020 at 05:15 PM. Reason: sp-
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nope
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Beethoven was pretty good with chords.
Saddest, this is what came to mind.
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Saddest, my ass :-)
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People confuse sadness with sentimentality or depressing melancholy. It's neither. Sadness is usually characterised by simplicity and is never sentimental.
This is fairly sad. The pianist is blind and it's an elegy for the victims of the tsunami of 2011 in Japan. He composed it himself. It's entirely derivative, of course, but the thing is that it's genuine, and that's what one feels. Dammit, even the major section is sad!
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Originally Posted by neatomic
Every experience is subjective (especially perceptio of arts).. not only emotional.
but there are lots of conventional things in culture which form quite distinctive musical languages...
Classical musci has lots of idioms that have very clear meaning and emotions... the simples is the 'sigh motive' for example (suspension - resolution) and there are lots of thing slike that of different levels that allow to express very complex things through music.
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By the way, you should check Nobuyuki Tsujii out. He's no popular player but a renowned concert pianist. Worth knowing about.
Nobuyuki Tsujii - Wikipedia
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Originally Posted by Jonah
It is easy to say it's all subjective yet I think if someone said, for example, "Build Me Up Buttercup" was the saddest song of all we would think they didn't understand the meaning of sad.
We could, of course, understand someone crying when they heard that song---say, in a drugstore--and when we asked why they were crying they said something like, "That was 'our' song. She died so young...." We would understand that emotion. But if someone said, "Those chords, that beat, that is the sound of grief!" I think we would be at a loss. And if they persisted and said, "That is what sadness means to me", well, we probably would shake our heads and mutter, "Alrighty then."
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the thing described in an article to me is basically plagal turnaround with minor IV preceded by major IV (or IVhalf dim or D7/9 (usually with F# in the base)
It is common for late romantic music as it had a bit of a folky colour which was in trend...
There is The Beartles 'If I Fell' - But John Lennon especially liked the turnaround: Nowhere Man, In My Life are things that come to my mind immidiately...
As for semantics (it is semantics!) to me unprepared change from major to minor (which we basically have here) is always connected with some 'misericordia' effect.. like an expression of a very human compassion... or self-ditraction, humility...
I remember my childhood impression of Moolight Sonata... I imagined some kind of figure solwly moving that at first seems to raise his spirits with challenge (modulation to E major at 0:40) but then keeps going but suddenly drops the head down. (E minor at 0:45)
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Originally Posted by ragman1
here the guy plays totally corny pop tune - as sentimental and primitive in means as one can be that would fit some Hollywood melodrama... and the effect comes from teh reference to the victims of tsunami (which seems either manipulative trick here or stupidity to me - sorry for being rough...)
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I'm moved by songs like
- Goin' home, sung by Paul Robeson
- Don't forget, by Pat Metheny
- I loves you Porgy, Keith Jarrett
- and many, many sung by Billie Holiday, played by Bill Evans, ......
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Sad songs say so much....
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Originally Posted by Jonah
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Originally Posted by ragman1
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Saddest? FWIW, my money is on:
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Originally Posted by Jonah
This performance is an elegy to the victims of Japan's earthquake/tsunami in March 2011, an original composition by the pianist when he made his debut recital in Carnegie Hall in November of that year. Tsujii is not a sentimental person and is very popular in classical piano, especially in his native Japan. Born blind, he is unpretentious and widely admired for his musical finesse and sincerity.
Nobuyuki Tsujii International Fans
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A.................................A+
It's my party and I'll cry if I want to
D .........................Dm
cry if I want to cry if I want to
Now that's sad. Note how the changes all hit on the word "cry"--how deep is that?
Danny W.
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Originally Posted by Danny W.
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https://blog.landr.com/emotional-chord-progressions/
I must admit, as a songwriter I am fascinated by chord progressions. Or sometimes just a particular change. What I know best can sometimes feel "old hat", so I sometimes try something different just to see what it's like.
Articles like this are worth it to me if they give me one idea that may turn out to be one bit of one song. ;o)
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There is wealth of beautiful and really unique (in lack of a better word) harmonies in the music of Edu Lobo (Pra dizer adeus....) , Jobim, Guinga, Ivan Lins -
Saudade is the word.
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Saudade is often translated as nostalgia.
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Originally Posted by Jonah
The word sad is related to sorrow and grief. Sentimentality, on the other hand, is about nostalgia, romanticism, idealism, and so on. They are completely different. If you said to parents who were upset because they had lost a child that they were merely being 'sentimental' god knows what would happen.
Then consider this piano player. Obviously you don't know who he is. He's a world renowned classical concert pianist who can play the deepest and most difficult pieces flawlessly by ear. If you think such a mind would then descend into mawkish sentimentality at the loss of so many of his people in the tsunami, including those he knew, then I have nothing to say. It's not a 'pop song' and it's only a gross uncomprehending ignorance that would suggest it.
Enough? No doubt you'll have some clever answer but it doesn't really bother me. For those who have ears to hear, let them hear.
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You want sad, yet beautiful?
Greg Brown -- Who Killed Cock Robin
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Originally Posted by WorldNobuyukiTsujiiFans
Transcriber wanted
Today, 04:35 PM in Improvisation