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    Intros?

    I've been feeling in a rut a bit lately, need some fresh ideas. I'm talking about intros that would start a song in style.

    What do ya got? Any style really. NOT nterested in rubato, only solid tempo-setters.

    Heres example, brilliant intro by Vinny. Something like that Im looking for.

    @Christian77- Im sure you got some to share?


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    Very tasteful solo too)))

    and cool skiffle style percussion)

  4. Barney Kessel with Julie London has a ton of classic intro/ending ideas



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    Quote Originally Posted by paulkogut View Post
    Barney Kessel with Julie London has a ton of classic intro/ending ideas


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    Agreed. I think that's the gold standard.
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    Ron Eschete did a book on Intros & Endings.

    Jazz Intros and Endings eBook+Online Audio - Mel Bay Publications, Inc. : Mel Bay

    One valuable lesson from that book is that one can take a basic idea and resolve it several different ways.

    And just for the hell of it, a medley of piano intros!

    "Learn the repertoire. It’s all in the songs. If you learn 200 songs, you will have no problem improvising."
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    Whatever gets you to the V...

    I'm a big fan of the "last 4 bars of the tune" trick, but like anything, it can be overdone...
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    cop some shit from this guy maybe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by joe2758 View Post
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    cop some shit from this guy maybe?
    Oh yeah, I did, I did!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonah View Post
    Very tasteful solo too)))

    and cool skiffle style percussion)
    Vinny is da man, one of my fav musicians on the scene, and very very nice person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe2758 View Post
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    cop some shit from this guy maybe?
    Jonathan knows his sh*t, alright!
    "Learn the repertoire. It’s all in the songs. If you learn 200 songs, you will have no problem improvising."
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    Or you could go the Kurt Rosenwinkel route and just play whatever you feel like as an intro:


    (Not to be dissing Kurt here. In my book, they don't get any better, and here he is playing one of my favorite tunes. I just had a hard time relating his intro to what follows. Maybe this doesn't qualify as what the OP characterized as starting a song "in style?")
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    It sounded like some unrelated improvisation, with a transition to playing a Vsus in rhythm to get the band going. \

    Some thoughts:

    On a gig with a singer, I like "last 4 bars". It's easy, it works and it gives the singer a chance to find the key.

    I like tunes/arrangements with a written intro. Think Chega De Saudade. Often, the outro is the same.

    For groove based tunes, it often helps to vamp, to give the rhythm section a chance to settle in. This is more important in unrehearsed situations or with lesser skilled players. The vamps can be on ii V, or I only, or iii VI ii V (hackneyed) or I bII or I IV7#11 etc.

    Four bar drum intro

    Last 4 or 8 with the bassist walking into the tune. Sparse drums and no more than a chord per bar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perdido View Post
    Or you could go the Kurt Rosenwinkel route and just play whatever you feel like as an intro:


    (Not to be dissing Kurt here. In my book, they don't get any better, and here he is playing one of my favorite tunes. I just had a hard time relating his intro to what follows. Maybe this doesn't qualify as what the OP characterized as starting a song "in style?")
    Yea... i dunno, sounds like noodling to me. I've never been a KR fan tbh, so maybe I'm biased... A good intro shouldn't be too long imo, or it loses the point.

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    Here's another one of my fav, it translates very well to guitar!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive View Post
    Yea... i dunno, sounds like noodling to me. I've never been a KR fan tbh, so maybe I'm biased... A good intro shouldn't be too long imo, or it loses the point.
    Can't say I disagree with you there, and I am a KR fan.
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    Herb Ellis, Days of Wine and Roses (live, 1979)

    I like this one.
    First there's a solo intro and then a short, synching-with-the-band bit that I've heard a lot of people use, so it's a real good one to know.


    "Learn the repertoire. It’s all in the songs. If you learn 200 songs, you will have no problem improvising."
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    I've never been a huge fan of KR but thought his intro was just fine. I didn't hear any "noodling" and I certainly heard some nice chord work. Extended intros are not a new thing in jazz, and I didn't find this one overlong or indulgent.

    It's the rest of the tune that may not be his bag, I dunno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkRhodes View Post
    I like this one.
    First there's a solo intro and then a short, synching-with-the-band bit that I've heard a lot of people use, so it's a real good one to know.


    Yea, starting from 1:22 is what I'm after! Nice one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazzstdnt View Post
    I've never been a huge fan of KR but thought his intro was just fine. I didn't hear any "noodling" and I certainly heard some nice chord work. Extended intros are not a new thing in jazz, and I didn't find this one overlong or indulgent.

    It's the rest of the tune that may not be his bag, I dunno.
    If you like it, you like it, it's all cool. I'm kinda 'cut the crap, get to the point' kinda guy, so that's what I look for in music too. But it's just a personal preference.

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    Sounds like you like something against pedal bass or ostinato riff... over domimnat..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonah View Post
    Sounds like you like something against pedal bass or ostinato riff... over domimnat..
    I do. Right now I have about 10 intros, and not enough with pedal bass. I think they sound hip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive View Post
    I've been feeling in a rut a bit lately, need some fresh ideas. I'm talking about intros that would start a song in style.

    What do ya got? Any style really. NOT nterested in rubato, only solid tempo-setters.

    Heres example, brilliant intro by Vinny. Something like that Im looking for.

    @Christian77- Im sure you got some to share?


    Loved that band.

    Intros with solid tempos are the best. Nothing against rubato players, but I live in the 20's and 30's when playing guitar. xD
    I'm always looking for inspiration. When I don't know what to do and don't want to go to the last 4 or last 8 I try something like a I - VI - II - V, well, in a lot of songs this is the last 4/8 bars, but when it's not I think that it gives a nice flow to it.

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    Frank Vignola has a lesson called "10 Chord Melody Intros." This is number 2 (repeated several times.)

    "Learn the repertoire. It’s all in the songs. If you learn 200 songs, you will have no problem improvising."
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    The intro to "Route 66" by the Nat Cole Trio is great. You could use it for other tunes.

    "Learn the repertoire. It’s all in the songs. If you learn 200 songs, you will have no problem improvising."
    Frank Vignola

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    Cool stuff, Mark, thanks!

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    I love that Route 66 intro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clebergf View Post
    I love that Route 66 intro.
    Duke Robillard teaches that at his Sonic Junction site. I was a member for a while and learned a few neat tricks and some fun tunes.
    "Learn the repertoire. It’s all in the songs. If you learn 200 songs, you will have no problem improvising."
    Frank Vignola

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