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  1. #26

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    Quote Originally Posted by PMB
    #5(b6/b13) is also the only thing that distinguishes the altered scale from its parallel diminished half/whole.
    Just to clarify:

    Altered
    1 b2 b3 3 b5 b6 b7

    Half-whole
    1 b2 b3 3 b5 5 6 b7

    b6 or 5/6

    Also,

    Altered
    1 b2 b3 3 b5 b6 b7

    Whole Tone
    1 2 3 b5 b6 b7

    b2/b3 or 2

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    good to know

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    For me altered chord means a dominant chord that's got #5 and b9, a chord that runs with super-locrian scale 7th degree of minor melodic.

    But it is not so formal, generally speaking it comes from classical cadences (chord progression) in minor, they are called dominant 9th.

    C minor V I
    G 7 (G B D F Ab)
    C - 7 (C Eb G Bb)

    It sounds very natural or harmonic, it's a very old concept well known still Baroque area.
    But C - 7 recalls us we are not into baroque, classical or romantic music any more.

    #5 or better named b6 can be added... It sounds good when 9th is added on minor chord, it is more modern.

    G alt (G B Eb F Ab)
    C - 9 (C Eb G Bb D)

    There is no tension on V I when it's in minor, but some tensions are added when it's a major cadence.

    G alt (G B Eb F Ab)
    C major 9 (C E G B D)

    Dominant chord with #5 sounds very good in V I in minor, #5 is b3 of I


    Well, it is the way I understand it, you can disagree.

  5. #29

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionelsax
    For me altered chord means a dominant chord that's got #5 and b9, a chord that runs with super-locrian scale 7th degree of minor melodic.

    But it is not so formal, generally speaking it comes from classical cadences (chord progression) in minor, they are called dominant 9th.

    C minor V I
    G 7 (G B D F Ab)
    C - 7 (C Eb G Bb)

    It sounds very natural or harmonic, it's a very old concept well known still Baroque area.
    But C - 7 recalls us we are not into baroque, classical or romantic music any more.

    #5 or better named b6 can be added... It sounds good when 9th is added on minor chord, it is more modern.

    G alt (G B Eb F Ab)
    C - 9 (C Eb G Bb D)

    There is no tension on V I when it's in minor, but some tensions are added when it's a major cadence.

    G alt (G B Eb F Ab)
    C major 9 (C E G B D)

    Dominant chord with #5 sounds very good in V I in minor, #5 is b3 of I

    Well, it is the way I understand it, you can disagree.
    All those dominant chords were in use by Romantic era composers AFAIK...

    #5 and b9 are derived from the C harmonic minor scale. If you have them in a major key, classical theorists refer to them as borrowed chords IRRC.

    The jazzy thing is adding notes to them tonic chords... That's pretty 20th century....

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    I think nobody understands my English.