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Had a go at an open improv in Dm. Feel like I'm at the shallow end... There's places this could have gone...
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04-19-2023 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Christian Miller
Work out what you were doing then take it to those places
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I’m gonna try and do one of these a week
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Very nice Christian. I must listen to it a few times more to get a sense of what is going on.
Looking forward to your weekly contributions
I'm heavily into a writing phase atm but will be back in the partimento world soon enough.
Pity that Nicola's book is so expensive. It's €19 everywhere else
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Originally Posted by Liarspoker
I'm heavily into a writing phase atm but will be back in the partimento world soon enough.
Pity that Nicola's book is so expensive. It's €19 everywhere else
Initial impressions - everything's in nice easy keys wherever possible and there's some very practical fingerings and voicings.
I will need to go through it in depth to see if I get much out of it. I think it'll be nice to doodle around on my nylon string. The way I play at the moment it's very jazz guitar, lots of closed positions even in Em. It might be nice to let the guitar work for me a bit more.
DM me ;-)
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Latest partimento channel update
The most beautiful Gallant Schemata?
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Late to the party...love these sounds...
How does one get into this? I wouldn't even know where to start. I also hate rules.
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Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
you could probably do worse than pick up Peter Crotons figured bass for classical guitar and Nicola Pignatiello’a new edition of the Fenaroli rules (there’s some basic partmenti at the back to get you started.)
the schema thing is in Gjedingen’s music in the gallant era, but you can probably learn loads by looking around the internet.
John Mortensen’s books are also wonderful, and the first easily (pianists guide to historical improvisation) is mostly adaptable to guitar. Not sure about the second yet haha.
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Scholarly discourse on the Art of Partimento FB group….
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Mr B, out of the books that Christian listed above I have found the first John Mortensen's book Historic Improvisation the most accessable.
Enjoy!
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Originally Posted by Liarspoker
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The croton book very practical as well. I think it’s a good idea to get a good grounding in figures and all the stuff in the book plays naturally on the guitar.
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After missing a week due to bank holiday issues lol, I'm on the nylon string.
I find this makes me operate a differently. I put in two takes so you can see more of my process such as it is. Warts and all stuff.
Bass/chord chart at the end courtesy of Mario Moya (Partimento Workshop on Facebook)
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Very nice Christian. I like your approach. I'm involved in a little project so haven't been visiting here as much.
I received Nicola's book an hour ago. It's smaller than I thought it would be.
Ok must go to teach at school. Looking forward to your next piece(s).
M
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There's been a bit of a break, but I present a longer video
Versets seem like great preparation for proper pieces.
They're simple - theme, development (usually melodic sequencing of a motive through a cycle), cadence. You can extra stuff and prolong as long as you like, but those are the basics.
If you move them into different keys you can join theme together, and we these sorts of things in the Bach two part invention for example (small example of that at the end)
Here's is the video I got the thematic material from. It's very info dense like all Michael's stuff.
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Very nice Christian. Composing this sort of stuff is easy but improvising with it is difficult so very well done.
Was that recorded direct?
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Originally Posted by Liarspoker
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Extremely basic video, but here’s a nice idea I’ve been playing with
btw - a quiescenza is basically I7-IV-V7-I all over a I pedal, so
G7 C/G D7/G G
it is very common as an opening gesture and also as a post cadential figure throughout the c18 and often used to build to a climax in Mozarts music.
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Back to the partimento grindstone. I realised I didn’t have the tied bass suspensions dailed in so I’ve running those.
eg
C Dm/C G/B C/B F/A Bm7b5/A Em/G etc
this features two inversions of the upper voices. Close position is also very nice but quite challenging fingering wise on many string groups
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Originally Posted by Christian Miller
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It has come to my attention that Tchaikovsky’s harmony book is teaching the same sort of stuff. Lots of figured bass and classic patterns ‘moti de bassi’ and parti-like exercises.
And no bloody Roman Numerals haha
https://s9.imslp.org/files/imglnks/u...xtbook_Eng.pdf
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Some mucking around and bad singing
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Originally Posted by Christian Miller
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Originally Posted by Bop Head
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Originally Posted by Bop Head
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