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Maybe the best example ever...
Tal sure had it...
what gives the thunk? My 575 doesn't thunk...my Godin kingpin does...Martin van ijterson has the thunk with P90's...Jack Zucker gets the thunk with his humbucker equipped 175...
discuss!Last edited by mr. beaumont; 04-16-2014 at 12:58 PM.
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04-16-2014 12:52 PM
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Thunk is good.
Know what's hard? Getting the Thunk live at volume. I don't know. It seems to disappear in the mix at stage volume.
But maybe I don't have the right guitar/pickup combo to get it. Seems when I EQ for the Thunk then I don't like how the guitar sounds in general. It's not balanced around the neck.
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I agree...there's a definite "acoustic" property to the thunk.
Full volume thunk:
(Is that guy ridiculous or what? Damn he's good)Last edited by mr. beaumont; 04-16-2014 at 01:10 PM.
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I definitely get that thunk out of my Eastman when it's amplified. Never thought of it as a definitive tone, just something that the guitar sounded like. Heavy flats and a 2mm pick. For sure it's not my playing that's special.
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Thunk you Jeff! (Had to do it)
Loved the postings. Thunk is definitely guitar based and not amp. My 175 does thunk, my Eastman 910 is thunkless.
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What kind of Eastman JSanta?
In my experience, the thunk only comes from laminates....
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Could someone post a thunkless clip, so i can be sure that I understand thunk properly ?
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The eastman carved top instruments definitely do not thunk! I'm hoping to hear one of the plywood guitars. A friend of mine posted a quick clip of his 371 and I think it has promise. Thunk can only come from a plywood equipped guitar.
Originally Posted by JSanta
Ironically, my Ibanez PM-120 has more thunk than my '89 175 though the 175 has more air to the sound. My Eastman T386 has a slight thunk.
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the best example of thunk is joe pass joy spring.
It's a little "thunk" sound that accompanies each picked note. Carved instruments don't do this.
My heritage 550 had thunk too.
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I disagree, especially considering you made a definitive statement about the tone of all Eastman instruments. You're a much better player than I can ever hope to be, but my 805 7 string has a similar, though less pronouched "thunk" to what was posted. Originally Posted by jzucker
I'm not going to get into a pissing match, especially on a forum, so I'm out.
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Yep, there's the thunk! (Joe Pass clip)
Let's see...no thunk...
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Mind you, saying a guitar doesn't thunk is not a slight...plenty of fabulous non thunk jazz tones out there too.
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Yeah - that's 'cos Joey stole it and put it on his music stand. Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
I'm still not sure, but I'm assuming its in the dynamics of the attack - only on the wound strings - not too much harmonic content and certainly not resonant. I have to turn off my reverb to even get a hint of thunk out of Ibanez AFJ91, but then it only has 12s on it. Or am I still missing the point ?
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Not to split hairs, but to my ears, in my opinion the J Pass clip is thunk personified, the Martino clip is tone cut back, not so much thunk. To me you almost "feel" the thunk - but, just my opinion of thunk - not right or wrong.
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Do I need a very expensive boutique compressor pedal to get the thunk ?
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I never thunk on a TOM.
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That makes sense.
If I partially mute a wooden bridge with my picking hand, I feel I may have distilled the essence of thunk. But then that's all there is - just thunk; thunk alone is not a great sound, it is but one facet of the character of a note.
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Right...A guitar that thinks does that for you...no muting required.
Wood bridge and flat wounds definitely seem to be a commonality on think guitars...but certainly not the only recipe...
There's more than just the guitar at work too...175's can thunk, but I think of Philip Catherine and a lot of Pat Metheny''s 175 tones and they are not particularly thunky.
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I'm pretty sure I coined the term thunk and I owned an 805 and it definitely didn't thunk. Carved top, floating pickup = no thunk. Originally Posted by JSanta
No need to get so upset.
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How much of the "thunk" is related to the pick itself? Anyone have an example of a thumb picker (plucker as I prefer to think) producing "thunk?"
Oh, wait a minute. What has more THUNK than a standup BASS...duhhh
If only a laminate is required, then a late 70's Ibanez with Super 70's is perhaps why I enjoyed that guitars tone so much.Last edited by 2bornot2bop; 04-16-2014 at 04:35 PM.
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I like a bit of thunk but not too much. I like Tal's tone, but not Jim's and certainly not Joe's which I think just overcooks it in the clip above. I love them both as players but their tones above just don't do it for me...I think they have too much thunk, assuming I know what thunk is....
I don't know how to do this fancy youtube embedding stuff. Does Jim's tone on The Bridge album bring the thunk? I really dig his sound on that album.
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Go to your youtube video of choice. Highlight the entire address in the address bar, so that it's blue...now, right click on your mouse and then choose COPY...that address is now copied....come here to the reply box as you ordinarily reply, click on the vertical looking film icon, 2nd from the far right...a pop up box will automatically open...now place your mouse cursor into that box...right click again, and then choose PASTE. The address you now see entered into your reply post will appear on the forum as a youtube video. Originally Posted by coolvinny
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Hmmm... I think Joe's tone on Joy Spring is to die for. Vintage like a fine wine. And can you have too much thunk? Only if it amounts to too much bass. Originally Posted by coolvinny
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Agreed. No offense but if you don't like that tone than you don't like jazz guitar IMO! Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles
I love a lot of really varied tones including danny gatton's, eric johnson's, brent mason, charlie christian, wes montgomery, jesse van ruller, george benson, pat metheny, allan holdsworth, etc., but that joe pass tone is one of the absolute hallmarks of jazz guitar!
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That's about the best Joe ever sounded...perfect. playing is also pretty good
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