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Just noticed this larry. Kinda wish I hadn't. I'm curious about the cynicism.?.? You're obviously referring to the post where I listed guys like Duanne Allman, Terry Kath, Joe Walsh etc.,as great musicians? You obviously glanced over the follow up . . "in there own genre". Also curious about, which of those mentioned in that thread you may disagree with as being great musicians? What would be your definition of great musicianship? Someone who plays many chords well? Exactly how many chords must one know, in your opinion, before you might be able to accept them as being a great musician?
Originally Posted by larry graves
Musicians are those who create music. Great musicians create great music. Was the music created by those mentioned in that post not great music . . within its own genre? Being a great musician need not be synonymous with being a formally and well educated master of technique and music theory . . or does it in your opinion?
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10-31-2013 12:16 PM
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Hendrix
Wes Montgomery
Pat Martino
Lenny Breau
Andy McKee
Dweezil Zappa
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Yes, that would be correct. And I listed (some) of my favorites and then I think it was you who questioned their musician ship.?.? Also, being a good/great musician is often (but not always) a major factor in being a good/great guitarist? But then, there are differing opinions on what it takes for one to be considered a good/great musician. Perhaps we have differing opinions and definitions on what it takes to be a great musician? My definition of a great musician, is one who makes great music. However, one's definitions and opinions of what is great music are very subjective. Subjectivity, was at the heart of the OP's question . . was it not? Originally Posted by larry graves
Your definition of a great musician seems to be someone who knows a lot of chords . . although I'm sure you meant theory. That would make your definitions and opinions based more upon objectivity than subjectivity. However, the OP's question was not one based upon objectivity. If it was, it would have been . . "Who do you think are the five best guitarists of all time?". If you think that you and I are have a bit of a fun filled banter here . . . just think what a shit storm THAT question would have created!!
I believe the following;
There are and were great guitarists who don't and didn't have extensive music theory knowledge.
There are and were great guitarists who have and had extensive music theory knowledge.
There are and were not so great guitarists who have and had extensive music theory knowledge.
There are and were not so great guitarists who have and had very limited music theory knowledge.
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Hendrix <check
Wes Montgomery <check
Pat Martino < check
Lenny Breau, <check
Andy McKee <check
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Benson.... smokin'!!!!
Nice Rhumba beat..piano player is awesome. Benson..Gawd, he's got the chops!
Love that sound from his GB200.
Note: audio breaks up from time to time..
Little George Benson "Deeper than you think"
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Right now, these are my favorites:
Ted Greene
Lenny Breau
Johnny Smith
George Van Eps
Kenny Burrell
Joe Pass
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1) My father (RIP)
2) Chet Atkins
3) SRV
4) Benson
5) Jerry Reed
and others that rotate through, except for number 1, that will always be held by my father.Last edited by Stormtruck2; 11-07-2013 at 05:00 PM.
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I want to add Doug Raney to my post 1975 list. My favorite old school 2nd generation guy.He's beautiful.
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Wes Montgomery
Pat Metheny
Jim Hall
Mahavishnu John McLaughlin
Pat MartinoLast edited by Eric Rowland; 12-29-2013 at 10:47 AM.
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I like SRV and EVH, know less about other guitar players
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Current top 5:
Ted Greene
Lenny Breau
Barney Kessel
Frank Zappa
Andres Segovia
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Hello, first post:
Ed B
Ted G
Steve Cropper
George Harrison
Adrian Utley
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Sutty....play a tele?
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Five?.....are you kidding?
Okay.....
Barney Kessel
Jeff Beck
Allan Holdsworth
Brent Mason
Eddie Van Halen........
And.....
Wes Montgomery
George Benson
Howard Roberts
Johnny Smith
Charlie Christian
Stevie Ray Vaughn
Greg Howe
Brad Paisley
Jimmy Page
Frank Zappa
Tal Farlow
Chet Atkins
Jerry Reed
Dickey Betts.........
I could do this for a reeeally long time.Last edited by Captain Caravelle; 11-25-2013 at 11:55 PM. Reason: I forgot Tal.....
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Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
Sutty....play a tele?
Is it that obvious from my influences?
Or do you recognise me from the TDPRI?
Hint: I'm the guy who's always asking stupid questions about jazz on a Tele.
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hmm, who's the guy in the vid? When he got into words and vocabulary at about 7:00, I was bought all in. Relating music to linguistics and language, beautiful.
Anyway, I like lots of players and have many favorites for different reasons.
I do like/love Ted Green who keeps coming up lists. However, after listening to his music intensely (what limited volume there is), I appreciate it tremendously, but I am not in love with it.
On any given day, I'd write my list of five differently. Having said that, I am going to be the only one on this small forum to list Jerry Garcia each time I might formulate a cinque d' importance. I don't think I will ever out grow or out live a deep appreciating for some of the turns of phrase he executed. Perhaps they were simple from a music theory point of view. Perhaps they were few (-ish) and far (-ish) between, but... ah well. One must have a history I suppose.
So add
Anthony Wilson!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Joe Pass
Wes
Scotty Moore
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Kenny Burrell
Pat Metheny
Tommy Emmanuel
Jimmy Herring
David Gilmour
Just Listened to a bunch of Lionel Loueke (thank you mr. beaumont), and that guy is amazing!
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My five:
Jim Hall
Paco de lucia
Ben Monder
Gabor Gado
Jimi Hendrix
Maybe the list looks differently tomorrow
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haha, then give us a show!! Originally Posted by Broyale
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Nels Cline , John Scofield , John McLaughlin, Kirt Cobain, Larry LaLonde..... but I could go on
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My guitar idols:
Wes Montgomery
Charlie Christian
Grant Green
Berilli LeGrene
Joe Pass
One thing I've come to realize...there are so many talented guitarists from every genre of music. I respect and appreciate them all.
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+1 Man, your list is off the charts great! I love it! Every one! Originally Posted by Caddoman
Last edited by ChuckCorbis; 12-22-2013 at 07:51 PM. Reason: The spelling of 'Bireli Lagrene'.
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1st Post On This Forum !
1.Joe Pass
2.Larry Carlton
3.Steve Lukather
4.Wes Montgomery
5.Django Reindhart
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Barney Kessel
Kenny Burrell
Wes Montgomery
Jimmy Bruno
Howard Alden
Bireli Lagrene
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Here are mine,
Wes,
Jimmy Raney
Howard Roberts
Joe Pass
George Benson
I could add many more ( Emily Remler, Martin Taylor, Pat Martino etc.,
there are so many legendary players ....)
and a number of contributors on this forum.
regards to all/
Silverfoxx.
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