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    Quote Originally Posted by rpjazzguitar
    As long as we're comparing eras, Woodstock was in 1969. The Billboard number one song that year was Sugar Sugar by the Archies.
    Reminds me of the Monkees, the original Milli Vanilli

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    My gramps was bitching about the same shit in 1962....it seems to be relative amongst the old geezer club.

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    Follow young trends and there is the $$$ .Not about music,but entertaiment to profit off of. Thats what Pop is all about,and I get it wether it was Chuck Berry or Jay Z.

    But when actual musicians were involved in the process, it was more musical. As Quincy Jones said so famously when the spirit leaves the room,so does the music!

    By the way Gramps was correct, smart man indeed!

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    I think you are overly hung up on what’s in the charts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jads57
    Follow young trends and there is the $$$ .Not about music,but entertaiment to profit off of. Thats what Pop is all about,and I get it wether it was Chuck Berry or Jay Z.

    But when actual musicians were involved in the process, it was more musical. As Quincy Jones said so famously when the spirit leaves the room,so does the music!

    By the way Gramps was correct, smart man indeed!
    Its not all doom and gloom, you can always go watch Sophia Wackermann on American Idol. I wonder if it will ever come up in conversation with those people how she sung ‘Against the Clock’ with her dad at one of the Allan Holdsworth memorial concerts, reprising her mother Naomi Star’s role on AH’s Wardenclyffe Tower

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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmic gumbo
    My gramps was bitching about the same shit in 1962....it seems to be relative amongst the old geezer club.
    Hi, C,
    Or, perhaps it takes that long to have a real perspective. However, I don't think age is necessarily the only factor since many younger working Jazzers feel the same way. . . try booking a Jazz gig in your hometown and GET paid FAIRLY if it's not a major city. Good playing . . . Marinero

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    Quote Originally Posted by jads57
    Again agreed with level of great young players. It's the music itself that is being produced that has no real greatness or originality imo.
    Where are the Jimi Hendrix's,Jaco's, Coltrane, and this is true in every genre since the technology revolution.

    Again my contention is we live now live in the Visual Age as opposed to an Audio age when it comes to music. Also popularity is of utmost importance as opposed to actual content.
    Hard to be inventive if all you do is follow!
    True. The 80's was a visual decade with MTV and many musicians trying to raise the bar with their stage show or at least look. Now younger people are used to documenting their lives with cell phones.
    The analog era is over. It takes getting used to at least for me. I fell into a situation where I could have made a great deal of money in the 80's by just performing. No recording, no promotion, etc..
    That time is passed. I'm going to get into what I always disliked the most- recording.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevebol
    ....The analog era is over....
    This is not true so long as we are analogue beings in an analogue universe.

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    More like we've become narcissistic beings in a narcissistic world. In other words every one has become an Amway Salesperson! YUCK!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jads57
    More like we've become narcissistic beings in a narcissistic world. In other words every one has become an Amway Salesperson! YUCK!!!!!
    When you say 'every one' I assume your including yourself.

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    Nvm

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    Absolutely a narcissistic personality is what it takes to be a musician or artist. But recognising it and putting in check is at least what I try to do. How successful at that, depends on whom you'd ask.

    But the difference was I only had to sell myself to other musicians to get work.
    Nowadays you sell directly to everyone on Facebook and YouTube.
    Also you didn't get on stage if you weren't good. Or they would give you the Old Bum's Rush!