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Originally Posted by christianm77
I never heard it mentioned in Europe and it seems nobody really uses it for learning - except modern jazz players who seem took through States again...
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11-07-2018 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Jonah
I also understand Schenker is a bigger deal in the US than he is in Europe?
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Thanks everybody..
now I have to learn all that stuff
geoffF
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Looks like a standard "back door" turn to me.
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Originally Posted by geoffF
Otoh, if it interests you, then... :-)
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Originally Posted by geoffF
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The tune's Form is A A B A...right
The A's are in F maj.
The B section goes to Dbmaj
The use of relative and parallel harmonic relationships.... is very common practice composition technique for the "B" sections of common practice tunes. It is also very common practice to have that "B" section have a Sub Dominant relationship with the Key of Tune.
The tune is in key of "F"maj.
The Relative Minor is "D" min.....D-7 E-7b5 Fma7 G-7 A-7 Bbma7 C7
The parallel Minor is "F" minor....F-7 G-7b5 Abma7 Bb-7 C-7 (Dbma7) Eb7
Going to Dbmaj for the "B" section... is example of that common practice. It is also common practice for that "B" section to use Major Functional chord movement guidelines ... as the tune does, and for the last bar or few bars of that "B" section to use dominant functional chords from both sections to somewhat camouflage the harmonic transition back to the original Key of the "A" section of the tune... the last "A" section... which the Tune does.
You generally start with the analysis of the complete tune and Form of the tune to have a Reference for labeling the details.
The tune is very standard and used standard Maj/min functional harmonic composition techniques.
When we as jazz players and composers... play or arrange the tune..... we employ jazz harmonic common practice techniques, which results in many different versions of the Tune.
Part of being a jazz player is to be able to hear and be aware that many of those common practice jazz harmonic techniques, like relative and parallel harmonic relationships.... but expanded through the use of Modal concepts etc... are going on all the time.
Grant Green, What is This Thing
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