Maj7 arpeggio over Dom7 chord question

[pamosmusic]

It's a lot easier than that. Look at the chord + melody + tune-as-a-whole and play what it says. Anything else is invalid whether you're playing chord tones, arpeggios, scalar lines or available tensions

This is one of those things people say when they want to sound in-the-know, but it really bears no resemblance to how the music is actually performed in the wild.

[henryrobinett]

Than a lot of the confusing ideas on how to do a tune here. I've always thought the what-to-do isn't that difficult, the problem is being able to do it tastefully.

Ok. Thanks for the clarification. But at a certain level it’s ALL hard until years later you start getting the hang of the various elements. And there are so many. But once you get the hang of it it all becomes kind of easy where over thinking is the devil. Taste is always easier said than achieved.


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[ragman1]

it really bears no resemblance to how the music is actually performed in the wild.

Nothing to do with performance, Pete, only about practice.

[ragman1]

Ok. Thanks for the clarification. But at a certain level it’s ALL hard until years later you start getting the hang of the various elements.

Of course it is. Jazz isn't easy, we all know that.

once you get the hang of it it all becomes kind of easy where over thinking is the devil.

I think that's more or less what I said. Over-thinking, i.e. complicating things, is part of the learning process. And, if one gets past that stage, it's still not easy!

Taste is always easier said than achieved.

Of course, but there's the question of how much taste can be 'achieved', as you put it, and how much is natural to the performer.

[pamosmusic]

Nothing to do with performance, Pete, only about practice.

Oh you sweet summer child.

[ragman1]

Oh you sweet summer child.

I know, sickening, isn't it?

[charlieparker]

Has anyone looked Bret Wilmot's chord voicings book? It's basically just all variations of drop 2 seventh chords substituted for other chords over a bass note which determines the name of the chord. So he thinks of almost every chord with upper extensions as a substitution of one of these more basic voicings.

[Christian Miller]

I haven’t, although I’ve heard of it. There’s a similar list in the Ben Monder pdf too.

I was find with those sorts of books you can summarise it very easily but to internalise any of it I kind of need to crunch through the possibilities on the instrument… one way or another


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