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    After You've Gone and Just Friends (and their contrefacts) start on IV major. Are there other standards or GASB tunes that start on IV major? (Autumn Leaves and others start on iv minor.)

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    Moonglow comes to mind.

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    See items 113 and 114 on this very useful Ralph Patt page:

    The Tonal Centers Page

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    Stardust
    I Can’t Believe You’re in Love With Me

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    I'll see you in my dreams ...

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    Menilmontant

    That's a fun one...takes a long time to get to the I.

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    Candy.
    Almost like being in love. (Sometimes)

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    Thank for the Memory

    Quite a tricky case - it starts on IV (or ii - depends on teh charts and player) and it sounds as if it is the pickup bar but it is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
    Menilmontant

    That's a fun one...takes a long time to get to the I.
    Thanks, that’s a new one for me. Gets to I in bar 5, similar to Just Friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonah
    Thank for the Memory

    Quite a tricky case - it starts on IV (or ii - depends on teh charts and player) and it sounds as if it is the pickup bar but it is not.
    The charts I have for it show ii-V-I in the first 2 bars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arielcee
    Candy.
    Almost like being in love. (Sometimes)
    Thanks, two good ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grahambop
    See items 113 and 114 on this very useful Ralph Patt page:

    The Tonal Centers Page
    Good list. "I Can't Believe That You're In Love With Me" is one of my favorite standards, esp the way Anita O'Day sings it.


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    Ralph Patt's website is a real resource.

    RIP Ralph and thanks!

    Someone is funding it to keep it going.

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    When its sleepy time down south

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcjazz
    After You've Gone and Just Friends (and their contrefacts) start on IV major. Are there other standards or GASB tunes that start on IV major? (Autumn Leaves and others start on iv minor.)
    Yeah, but that tonal page has AL under VIm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WILSON 1
    Yeah, but that tonal page has AL under VIm.
    Autumn Leaves is a minor key tune, IMHO...so it starts on 4m.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
    Autumn Leaves is a minor key tune, IMHO...so it starts on 4m.
    yeah , different

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
    Autumn Leaves is a minor key tune, IMHO...so it starts on 4m.
    I see AL in G6. That way the progression goes: ii-7 - V7 - I6 - IVmaj7 - viiø - III7 - vi-7.

    This way I only have to remember that the song is a circle but the iii-7 is a III7

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    Bright Size Life. Wichita Lineman. Must be a Kansas thing.

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    Irving Berlin's "Remember" is another one. Hank Mobley recorded it on "Soul Station", and Joshua Redman has a great version on "Spirit Of The Moment".

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    When the Sun Comes Out; Love for Sale; the famous one from Trois Gymnopedies---covered by pop groups, so it qualifies; a 60's or '70s pop song---can't think of the title, a ballad (let's be in in G) Melody: G A G E/G A G Eb (changes: C/C Min/F# Min B7/E Min, etc) That ougtta narrow it down to 40,000!; We've Only Just Begun; Limehouse Blues; The Stumble, 59th Street Bridge Song (OK, that one sucks); Close to You; All My Tomorrows; Only Trust Your Heart (sometimes #4 half-dimished---done both ways)...
    Last edited by joelf; 03-17-2020 at 01:11 AM.

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    I saw that it's supposed to be IV major---but that leaves out too many good songs that have maybe a bluesy quality, and a lot of pop/rock whose plasma is 7th chords...

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    Quote Originally Posted by joelf
    I saw that it's supposed to be IV major---but that leaves out too many good songs that have maybe a bluesy quality, and a lot of pop/rock whose plasma is 7th chords...
    Which is precisely why I limited it to IV major!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcjazz
    Which is precisely why I limited it to IV major!
    'You're no fun anymore'---Monty Python...

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    Can anyone tell me the title of the rock tune I alluded to in post 22? I'm thinking Moody Blues, but I can be way off. '70s is about right...