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Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive
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01-10-2016 01:25 PM
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01-10-2016, 01:27 PM #27Dutchbopper GuestOriginally Posted by Hep To The Jive
Hard bop is just an extension of bebop. It's not a counter reaction by any means.
And do not forget. Almost 75 years later, people are still playing bebop. It is a genre that is completely irrelevant for the masses but people are still listening to it and playing it.
DB
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Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive
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Originally Posted by Dutchbopper
Bebop is more popular now than it was when it was created. Audiences and many musicians wanted the Swing Era to continue it was danceable, easy on the ear. Then more work for musician because of the bigger bands and some just weren't into improv they were good parts players. Then not long after Bebop got started R&B came on the scene and again danceable and more about a honking sax player versus Bebop improviser. Coltrane started played with some of the R&B bands and had "walk the bar" doing solos. The myth of Bebop is bigger than Bebop was, Bebop was musicians music it was all about the challenge.
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Originally Posted by Dutchbopper
"People still playing bebop.." This all common phrases that dont mean much to me. Do you personally play it, do you play Confirmation, do you enjoy playing it, what exactly draws you in, give me personal experience! Im looking at it as insider, as a doer, whos likes the challenge. But I know what I like or dont like about it, and why.
I disagree about hard bop. Its definitely an extension of bebop as harmonic langauge, but its also reaction against initial values of bebop that didnt concerned with listeners feelings. Hard boppers did care about listenability, and composition, and arrangements. They didnt want 'wham bam thank you ma'am we dont care if you like it or not' attitude of original bebop style.
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01-10-2016, 06:07 PM #31Dutchbopper GuestOriginally Posted by Hep To The Jive
DBLast edited by Dutchbopper; 01-10-2016 at 06:42 PM.
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Originally Posted by Dutchbopper
Last edited by Hep To The Jive; 01-10-2016 at 09:03 PM. Reason: poor grammar
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Everything about Confirmation appeals to me. I find it very melodic, plus good changes. I play it on gigs and with friends quite often. My favorite bebop tune!
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Confirmation has a great beginning and end...a little forgettable in the middle...great changes. Classic tune.
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Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
The opening part stuck in my head, great riff. The middle......... Well it was one of his earlier attempts, so it's understandable.Last edited by Hep To The Jive; 01-10-2016 at 10:58 PM.
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Early bop feel.. nice, plenty of space
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