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Originally Posted by Mick-7
I don’t think Bird had any foresight or concern that we’d be studying these takes 70 years later. He probably wanted his double scale as band leader and $10 for publishing rights.
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07-28-2024 04:48 PM
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I think I'll record a take of this in the only position that Peter missed, i.e., first position using open strings, which is actually the hardest position to play this in. I'm shooting for Rockabilly - or in this case Rockacharlie. Probably have to turn up the reverb.
And my sweep picking ability appears to have declined - use it or lose it I guess.
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Originally Posted by Mick-7
… on an ancient acoustic guitar ….
…. which should tell you how eager I was to learn it in open position
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So, I'm not sure why I wrote this study (i.e., the attached pdf), except that in one thread or another we discussed improvising with chord tones.
The study focuses on using chord tones, with chromatic passing tones from time to time to spice it up a bit. It's in straight eighth notes, which is a practice that Joe Pass recommended to create more flowing lines. Hopefully some here will find it useful.
The chord changes are a combo of the Real Book and Charlie Parker Omnibook changes, which are slightly different.Last edited by Mick-7; 07-30-2024 at 04:46 PM. Reason: Corrected a couple of wrong notes
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Did the rough transcribing of the tune today. I didn't know it before and I'm a fan of it.
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Unfortunately, it seems that I can't play tunes very well unless I can sing them first, so I have to listen to each phrase repeatedly and then sing each phrase.
It's a very slow process, but enjoyable and ultimately rewarding.
I'm singing phrase 2 as I type.
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Originally Posted by pamosmusic
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Originally Posted by Mick-7
Eb - Abm - Gm7b5 - C7
F7 - Bb7 - Gm C7 - Fm Bb7
Eb - Abm - Gm7b5 - C7
F7 - Bb7 - Eb - Bbm Eb7
Ab - Abm - Gm7b5 - C7
F7 - F7 - Fm - Bb7
Eb - Abm - Gm7b5 - C7
F7 - Bb7 - Gm C7 - Fm Bb7
Original recording it seems like he sometimes plays Abm in bar two of the A section, and sometimes he plays the Abm Db7. It amounts to the same thing. So I play pretty much what I put up there. DJG or Christian would probably have better context for this.
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Originally Posted by pamosmusic
The piano player actually plays triads on the original recordings or is that just chord shorthand?
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Originally Posted by Mick-7
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Finally got around to this. That triplet is like a tongue twister.
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I'm listening again to the exact details of the first phrase in the Original Parker recording.
Attachment 114442
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I'm definitely hearing this for the first phrase.
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I think it's an F# last note in bar 2?
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Originally Posted by pamosmusic
Sometimes its Gm7b5 C7 sometimes Db7 C7 (like Yardbird Suite)
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Originally Posted by GuyBoden
I agree, it does sound like there isn't a triplet at the end of bar 1, but I hear an F and not an F# at the end of bar 2.
Did you just slow this down by 2/3? It sounds down a fifth. It also sounds better than time stretching.
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Originally Posted by supersoul
Yes, down a fifth.
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I hear that triplet in the Parker one and the Roy Hargrove one that doesn’t have an intro.
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Originally Posted by AllanAllen
The original Parker version is written as a triplet in most notated examples.
(Edit: I'm happy to be incorrect. I'm just copying the phrases from these Bebop tunes.)
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Originally Posted by GuyBoden
That's what I hear anyway. I've been wrong before, lots of times
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Originally Posted by AllanAllen
Yeah it's definitely in there though. Whether it's a triplet or eighth and paired sixteenths is another story.
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Ghost note will work. I think of that as more of a percussive term. Does it apply to tones as well?
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Triplet or not, I'm learning some good licks from these classic Bebop head threads.
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Originally Posted by GuyBoden
So analzying it. The triplet lick, I see an F13 arppegio shape. The second lick I see an Eb7
What I don't see is how this relates to the changes.
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Originally Posted by Christian Miller
As far as triplet or no triplet, it's there, it's just that Bird and Miles sometimes play out of sync so the phrasing gets muddled - Bird's fault of course.
Originally Posted by AllanAllen
Mixer question
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