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Up for sale is a blonde 2017 Guild A-150 Savoy (MIK) in very good condition. Comes with original hardshell case. No issues with the guitar. No fret wear. Everything works and it only has a few minuscule scattered nicks that are barely perceptible. Also, a minor finish flaw about the size of a US quarter on the back that isn't obvious unless you run your finger over it (unable to capture it in a photograph). Professionally set up recently. Asking $900 OBO plus shipping.
Here are the specs:
Top Material: Solid (pressed) Spruce Top
Body Details: Laminate Maple back and sides
Fingerboard Material: Ebony
Neck Profile: Soft U
Neck Thickness (IN): 1st - .87" & 10th - .99"
Fingerboard Radius: 9.50"
Nut Width: 1-11/16"
Scale Length: 24-3/4"
Neck Details: Three-piece Mahogany neck with a Maple center strip.
Electronics: DeArmond 1000 Rhythm Chief Floating Archtop pickup with a volume pot.
Pickup Measurements: Neck: 15.21k Ohms
Hardware: Bridge has been swapped but all other hardware is original. Original bridge is included in the case.
Weight: 5lbs 14oz
Modifications / Repairs: Non-original bridge.
Last edited by Bill Eisele; 04-27-2023 at 08:10 PM.
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04-14-2023 07:57 PM
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Hi All,
I'm trying to decide whether to leave this listing up or take it down and drop the guitar off at my favorite guitar shop in Albuquerque for consignment. I'm heading down there tomorrow to pick up a couple guitars that just had set ups done on them. I also have the guitar listed on the local CL but I only got two responses. One was from a guy wanting to put down Fender Corona, CA, Guilds and Korean Guilds. Oh, well! The other response was from "Susan" who wanted to buy the guitar without seeing it and playing it, and wanted to send her "sister" over to pick it up. Hmmm . . .
I'm just wondering if it's priced correctly, if the model is just not perceived to be worth buying and playing, or something else . . . The only reason I'm selling it is because I just acquired a Guild X-700 and the A-150 Savoy isn't being played.
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The price seems quite reasonable to me, based on current new pricing.
My perception is that it seems to take longer to sell used guitars these days, even if they're priced fairly.
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Thanks for your input. That indeed does seem to be the case these days. I will hold off on consigning the guitar for a while.
Originally Posted by va3ux
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I think it is priced well. (What I see on reverb is priced a little high. In other words, for $200ish more you can have a new one. Your price, I would assume is competitive).
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I thought I was looking at a burst for 900 and free shipping earlier this morning on reverb. The price is internet fair but internet fair priced instruments take time to sell on CL and small forums. Not many people want a korean Guild, no offense. So interest will be narrow even on the net.
Generally a cash face to face craigslist sale needs to be priced lower than reverb to move something reasonably quick i.e 1-2 months of CL ad time. I have sold a lot of stuff on CL even recently. Lower priced junk gear and small stuff like pedals goes the fastest of course. Guitars over 1500 bucks can take 4 or 5 months to move. I see lots of CL guys trying to get reverb prices on their stuff and it's still listed a year later. A lot of Hail Mary pricing happening in the instrument and real estate markets both right now. I guess all that extra time dealing with CL is worth a hundred bucks in the long run to some guys. I'd rather just get it out my hair but my space and funds are limited so that factors in to having lower than internet OBO ads on CL and getting rid of stuff to fund other gear. Good luck with the sale.
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The price is in the ballpark. I actually played one of these about 5 months ago a repair to do. Generally a nice guitar with warm sound thanks to the mahogany neck. Jazz archtops for the most part are not fast-moving sales. With the exception of many a few Gibsons priced right I don't think anything is sell really fast. I see mostly a bunch of overpriced guitars on Reverb that clearly indicated they are not selling because some have been for sale for years. These days at least in terms of jazz guitars there are dealers who have to make a living selling guitars and good ones have prices that are nothing like Reverb.
This guitar is nice and price ok not sure but even knocking of a fair amount of money from the $900 I don't think will sell it any faster. Put it up on facebook and sell it in person although it could sell here for sure. I wound not consign the guitar at all unless I had to have the money. I am pretty sure on facebook you can get a price same as consigning. You have to weed out problems but if a person is looking for a guitar like this they should be asking the right questions.
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A minor point, so feel free to disregard. Your photo shows the thick pickup cable in full view, whereas the pictures of others show it neatly tucked under the pickguard. My initial reaction was "that don't look right". If you list it elsewhere, I suggest taking a more "attractive" photo. Also, I always look for measurements of the width of the lower bout and the depth of the side of the rim. I didn't see either in your list. GLWTS
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I do too! :-) Originally Posted by jazzshrink
17" lower bout and 3" side of the rim.
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The pictures are from this CME listing. So I wouldn't really trust this.
Guild Newark St. Collection A-150 Savoy Blonde – Chicago Music Exchange
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Well shut my mouth and call me corn pone. Originally Posted by AllanAllen
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Well, I was the one who bought it off CME. I thought the CME photos looked a lot better than anything I could take and was probably a little lazy to boot. As I mentioned earlier, I just bought a Guild X-700 and I'm not needing the A-150 Savoy anymore. Originally Posted by AllanAllen
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They are actually CME photos as mentioned below. I was thinking mine wouldn't look as good, but when I had some time I tucked the cable under the pickguard and used a clip to attach it to the underside of the pickguard so it wouldn't move (see, it is a crappy photo, even sideways): Originally Posted by jazzshrink
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I would have appreciated it if you had checked out my profile and posts before calling me out as untrustworthy. Originally Posted by AllanAllen
Last edited by Bill Eisele; 04-22-2023 at 09:52 PM.
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Sorry about that. Who knows, maybe it'll help with your sale since other people might have recognized the background and dismissed this as a scam without commenting.... like I did 6 days ago when you posted it.
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Good point. Apology accepted. I should have said I was using the CME photos just in case someone thought the same thing. Oh well! Originally Posted by AllanAllen
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I wish I had a good set up for photographing guitars. Like using a seamless backdrop and having diffuse lighting. I'm amazed at some of the beautiful photographs of guitars here on this forum as well as some of the dealers. Originally Posted by AllanAllen
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As an example, there's a 1998 Epiphone Zephyr Regent for sale up here in Ontario for $850 Cdn (~$630 USD) on Kijiji. They're fairly rare and they have a good reputation within our little jazz guitar community. I thought someone would snap that up within a week or two. But it's been listed for nearly 6 months with no takers. That's a surprise to me but I'm now thinking that my perception doesn't match reality. Originally Posted by va3ux
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I know the seller (Bill). He's authentic and trustworthy. No doubts.
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The receipt is reassuring, but I would not want my personal info so easily accessible… that is just me. I would think blacking out your address and phone number should be good. You can always offer to show the full receipt if someone is interested.
When it comes to being called out… the internet is a playground of cons, jerks, and scams… I think it best that there was more transparency, then less.
It is always best to sell, one to one local, but it takes works. Also it depends a lot on the population. There is no way I can sell any mid to high end gear here in Fresno. I typically just end up with GC… and it hurts.
One day I am planning on buying a floating PU type guitar. Kinda bummed that I am not ready to buy. Patience (with persistence) is a powerful tool.
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I know what you are saying about the personal info being in the receipt. I thought about that too before I posted it. But anyone can find out just about anything about a person by just Googling them. Addresses, phone numbers, email addresses, property values, persons living with you, jobs held, salary if you're a public employee, and so on. And for a small fee, you can find even more. Originally Posted by st.bede
I have the guitar listed on the local CL and NextDoor, but no one is really interested. In the end, I typically consign guitars to a local shop or, if it's a high end guitar, to a dealer who specializes in that price range. I find it less stressful to pay the consignment fee than to deal with potential buyers who want to ask endless questions, want you to give them the guitar for practically nothing, or have issues with a perfectly fine guitar after the sale. It's a buffer that I will happily pay for.
The way things are going, the guitar might still be sale when you are ready to buy!
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My $0.02 is that the asking price is high if you’re not willing to bargain, but if you add an explicit “OBO” it’s OK. I think the main issue is that this not all that popular a guitar on the forum, so it’s just going to take a while before an interested buyer comes along.
It seems like you’re unwilling to put it in Reverb (which I get). But if you were list it there for $850 and accept offers, I suspect it would sell pretty quickly. My experience is that CL is a waste of time.
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I think the asking price is reasonable given that used ones on Reverb are going for a lot more than I'm asking, but your $0.02 is worthy of consideration. I just checked and my price is the lowest of any on Reverb. People should actually try playing one of these guitars. I think they might be pleasantly surprised. They can usually be found in GCs. And, I dropped the price on CL to $900 here for fellow forum members. I kind of thought that my "asking" price of $900 was an indication of a willingness to accept offers but maybe that is too obtuse. I might take a little less if someone is interested. At the same time it might be worth keeping because you just can't find anything decent at this price. Originally Posted by John A.
Yes, it's obvious I'm not a fan of Reverb. And, I agree that CL is a waste of time. All I ever get are low ballers.
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I think saying "OBO" helps. Maybe some people would just assume you mean this, but others might assume the opposite, so why chance it? Originally Posted by Bill Eisele
Regarding Reverb, you can't really go by asking prices there because only a small percent of things sell for the asking price. If you look at Reverb sold listings, you get the asking price at the time of sale, but you don't get the actual selling price after offers and counter-offers. Just from what I know from having bought and sold a few things and checked out the Reverb "price guides" (which they only have for certain items), my SWAG is that you can expect to get a somewhere in the range of 10-20% less than the median sold listing. Your asking price basically determines how long it takes for people to bargain you down to that point. Granted, you could get more if the right buyer comes along, or if what you're selling is scarce, so this is not written in stone. This is just guesswork on my part, so take it for what you think it's worth ...
Applying this logic, the current median of sold listings for a used A-150 is $1010 (not a guess; I just calculated this). I think that means you can expect $808-908. So $900 is not a crazy high asking price, but it's probably at the high end of what people on Reverb would actually pay. Here, people tend to ask for less than on Reverb with the expectation that there's less bargaining, plus the spirit of fraternity. So I think it might not move at an asking price of $900 here, Anyway, that's my thought process.
Regarding the guitar itself, I agree these are very nice and did not mean to imply otherwise. I tried a couple of them myself, and it was on the shortlist for me for a while. But there's not much talk about them here for whatever reasons.
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Thanks for the advice and research. I will go ahead and put OBO after the price as an incentive to move it. I think you are on the right track as far as pricing. And, glad to hear that you had a chance to play some of them and liked them. Not sure why they don't get much attention, but as far as the major guitar makers, most of the focus on archtop guitar brands is Gibson, not Guild. Originally Posted by John A.
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