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    I've been running my guitar through Reaper's 'ReaShift' plug in (with some comp and EQ) and the sound is pretty good but not quite good enough. I want to try using a bass, but I don't want to invest much in one. As long as it stays in tune and has a playable neck---it'll never be played through an amp or live, just something for making demos at home.

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    blurb says it all

    The Squier Bronco Bass is a great pick for guitarists who occasionally need a bass, younger beginners, smaller players, or for anyone who likes the feel of a short-scale (30") bass. It tunes easily and sounds full and rich, thanks to its single-coil pickup, maple neck, die-cast tuners and solid agathis body.

    around 199$



    cheers

    ps- a pal of mine who has a pretty nice collection of expensive bass guitars (german hofs, guild, fender etc) bought one on a lark to keep at his job...he loves it!
    Last edited by neatomic; 03-31-2021 at 01:50 PM. Reason: ps-

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    I really like the Ibanez bass necks because they're very similar to guitar necks, that is they're thin. Very comfortable to play.

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    Try the Höfner Ignition Beatle bass. Easy 30” scale for guitarists and great sound at low cost. Put La Bella black tapewounds on and you have a sound made in heaven

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    Thanks, guys.
    I've also reached out to Joel at Sweetwater.
    I'll have to get something or other.
    All these suggestions sound good.

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    i agree the ibanez basses are nice.

    used fender jazz (or pbass) mexican or squire vintage modern

    a local music shop will probably have a perfectly good entry level electric bass used or new. don't worry so much about the name, see what's comfortable in your hands.

    i have a p bass but the neck is more like a J. classic sound and great for recording.

    i also have a digitech ricochet octave pedal, that produces a very convincing bass tone using guitar.

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    j bass and precision are great..but long scale...not as easy for a guitarist to adjust to...why short scales are great...plus they have their own unique thump...hofner ignition ^ both violin and club bass are nice but about double the $$$ of squier bronco...ss dano's are great too..but also more costly

    ibanez has a very small scale bass...27" or so...thats kinda fun..but it's not all that thumpy...need at least 30" scale for deep bass


    keep us posted on what joel @sw says


    cheers

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    I say get the full size bass.
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    ^ nice looking bass...

    but can't help chuckle...body is poplar...a pale plain sort of wood...but mahogany stain oil really livens it up!...bad body joint aside

    still stickin with short scale tho! easier on the hands...and as first bass...esp with flats!!!

    plus they can thump like a standup

    when keith richards was putting together the band for the chuck berry film- hail hail r&r...he chose joey spampinato of nrbq for bass...saying he sounded more like an upright than anybody...true!!..he used a ss dano longhorn style with flats...hard to beat tone





    cheers
    Last edited by neatomic; 03-31-2021 at 10:53 PM.

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    I’ve used a Squier Affinity PJ for several years and like it a lot...especially for the $$. I added a tort pg and some EMG Geezers and with a set of flats it’s a sweet bass, indeed. It’s got the fatness of the split coil and the growliness of the bridge J. Covers most bases without spending much.

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    Gretsch has a short-scale sells for around $120, 1 and 2 pu models. Excellent recording bass.

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    I love my Kala u-bass. Full hollow body baritone ukulele bass with polypropylene strings. Sounds like an upright, light as a feather, built-in tuner.

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    Sounds like an upright? Like that's a good thing?

    I'm not sure Mark's going for an upright tone. He's going to use the bass for songwriting, recording demos of songs he writes which are usually not jazz. Maybe a more versatile tone would be better.

    For what i do, I don't want an upright tone. I like the notes more defined, clearer sounding. I'm not a fan of the upright tone. However. Mark's opinion may differ from mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neatomic
    ^ nice looking bass...

    but can't help chuckle...body is poplar...a pale plain sort of wood...but mahogany stain oil really livens it up!...bad body joint aside

    still stickin with short scale tho! easier on the hands...and as first bass...esp with flats!!!

    plus they can thump like a standup

    when keith richards was putting together the band for the chuck berry film- hail hail r&r...he chose joey spampinato of nrbq for bass...saying he sounded more like an upright than anybody...true!!..he used a ss dano longhorn style with flats...hard to beat tone

    cheers
    Bad body joint? Not my area of expertise, can you elaborate?

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    This could be useful:

    The winner Yamaha TRBX304, 2nd the more pricey Squier Vintage Modified Jazz Bass. The less expensive option... the Cort Action.


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    Thanks, guys.

    I was talking with my wife about this over dinner last night and she said, "Buy the bass. Just buy the bass. I told you, buy the bass. I don't know why you didn't buy it before." (She thinks I hesitate to buy things for myself that cost more than a book.)

    I bought EZ Bass, a software program. It's actually good---real bass sounds made by pro players playing real bass guitars---but it's (for me) way more complicated than using a drum machine.

    Would like to make it work---for one thing, it plays bass much better than I do. ;o)

    But when I'm writing a song and coming up with a bassline, I really want to 'hit it and quit it'. I don't want to have to switch to programming mode. That really ebbs my flow, ya' know?

    So it looks like a real bass shall soon come my way. I do like the idea of a short-scale neck. I had a Fender Precision years (-decades?) ago and never felt comfortable with it. It was just too different.

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    Buy the Bass!

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    One of my drum machines, a Yamaha something or other, has a feature where the pads can be assigned notes and just played like a keyboard. There are multiple bass voices to choose from. Might be worth a little research.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fep
    Sounds like an upright? Like that's a good thing?

    I'm not sure Mark's going for an upright tone. He's going to use the bass for songwriting, recording demos of songs he writes which are usually not jazz. Maybe a more versatile tone would be better.

    For what i do, I don't want an upright tone. I like the notes more defined, clearer sounding. I'm not a fan of the upright tone. However. Mark's opinion may differ from mine.
    well it is a jazz forum!! haha

    but never meant to suggest that short scale basses only sound like standups..that takes dedicated effort..the right set-up, strings, settings and most importantly- playing technique...i just find short scales the best for that, if you want to go down that path

    otherwise so many great bassists and recordings have been done with ss basses..and all sound very different...macca, wyman, jack bruce, entwhistle,larry graham, stanley clarke, gary tallent(springsteen), robbie shakespeare, mike watt etc etc ...the short scale length doesn't limit your tonal possibilities

    cheers

    ps- as per ibanez body joint..purely cosmetic..they used multiple piece poplar body and with transparent stain finish so the pieces are easily visible, and not matched well

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    Mark, a while back I was in your shoes, seeking an inexpensive bass for home practice, etc. I ended up with a used Fender Squire Fretless Jazz bass that I really love. It cost around $200. They sell new for a whopping $430. While fretless isn't for everyone, it forced me to work on proper fingering, intonation and tone.

    Whatever bass you end up with, one thing you might notice is an improvement in your guitar playing. Bass playing really makes one think. Fretless bass playing gave me a headache (LOL!) until I got used to the 'on the fret line' notation.

    Have fun!

    Squier Classic Vibe '60s Fretless Jazz Bass 3-Color Sunburst | Guitar Center

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    Got an Ibanez at a pawn shop for under $100. You just have to look around.

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    The most upright sounding bass I have is a U bass. However, minding its its inferior size, I would not consider it cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neatomic
    blurb says it all

    The Squier Bronco Bass is a great pick for guitarists who occasionally need a bass, younger beginners, smaller players, or for anyone who likes the feel of a short-scale (30") bass. It tunes easily and sounds full and rich, thanks to its single-coil pickup, maple neck, die-cast tuners and solid agathis body.

    around 199$



    cheers

    ps- a pal of mine who has a pretty nice collection of expensive bass guitars (german hofs, guild, fender etc) bought one on a lark to keep at his job...he loves it!
    My Tele is a Squier Affinity, so maybe the neck would be similar???
    I'm sold on the short-scale idea.
    This also comes in Torino Red. (I had a Red Strat once, so a red guitar is not anathema to me.)

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    yes the bronco's width at the nut is slightly narrower, like the affinity tele's is...same 9.5 radius...same c shape neck...so i'd say affinity tele and bronco have shared comfort intent...

    also thinner lighter weight body like aff. tele has

    i thought it would be a good match..and right price...why i recommended!

    torino red version is nice!

    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gitfiddler
    Mark, a while back I was in your shoes, seeking an inexpensive bass for home practice, etc. I ended up with a used Fender Squire Fretless Jazz bass that I really love. It cost around $200. They sell new for a whopping $430. While fretless isn't for everyone, it forced me to work on proper fingering, intonation and tone.

    Whatever bass you end up with, one thing you might notice is an improvement in your guitar playing. Bass playing really makes one think. Fretless bass playing gave me a headache (LOL!) until I got used to the 'on the fret line' notation.

    Have fun!

    Squier Classic Vibe '60s Fretless Jazz Bass 3-Color Sunburst | Guitar Center
    I had one of those and it felt and sounded great. Up to that point I had no idea that fretless basses required you to play on the fret line and when I got it home, I tuned up and played a few licks and tunes, solo. Liked the sound so I programmed a drum track and laid down a Rhodes track. Went for the bass and immediately thought “it’s already out of tune?”. So dumb.

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    I was looking at a Jackson JS series bass. Good reviews, not much money.

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    I was up before the alarm sounded with a Mel Bay bass book from the library, practicing reading notes in bass clef. You could say I'm excited.

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    Good News: Ordered the bass!
    A Forum angel alerted me to a 20% discount I was unaware of, so I saved some $$$. Thanks again, man!

    I had two choices of color: Black or Torino Red. I chose the latter. My room could use a little color.

    Cheap bass (for making demos at home)-squier-affinity-bronco-bass-torino-red-jpg

    Bad News: It's out of stock until the 10th.


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    I've played a Danelectro bass and a Fender bass forever. They are great. The Dano is super if you are looking for something that doesn't require much re-thinking to make the switch over from guitar.

    However, if you want to check out another cheap, nice, short-scale bass take a look at the Epiphone EB-0 bass. It's a copy of the 60s Gibson EB-0 that us guitar players gravitated to back then. Like the Danelectro, it doesn't require much if any of a thought about technique to switch from guitar to bass. It's about $250 IIRC.

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    A short scale that caught my eye was a Gretsch G2220 Junior Jet.

    4.7 stars. Not much money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greentone
    I've played a Danelectro bass and a Fender bass forever. They are great. The Dano is super if you are looking for something that doesn't require much re-thinking to make the switch over from guitar.

    However, if you want to check out another cheap, nice, short-scale bass take a look at the Epiphone EB-0 bass. It's a copy of the 60s Gibson EB-0 that us guitar players gravitated to back then. Like the Danelectro, it doesn't require much if any of a thought about technique to switch from guitar to bass. It's about $250 IIRC.
    Carole Kaye mentions playing a Danelectro bass (as well as Fender basses) for some of her sessions.
    Last edited by Gitfiddler; 04-02-2021 at 05:58 PM.

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    dano's were used by many session players back in the day...they were cheap $$$!, but remarkably forward thinking...they were easy to play, had great sounding yet ridiculously simple pickups, and had (then) innovative features like double octave 24 fret necks, tilt neck adjustments, aluminum nuts and control panel shielding...plus they made a 6 string bass (tuned like a guitar but an octave below) that was used by many sessioners

    jack bruce with his longhorn- disraeli gears sessions



    cheers

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    congrats...squier bronco is based on old fender musicmaster bass



    cheers

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    Now I'll have to buy a Carol Kaye book of bass instruction. That's her main thing, but up until now I've only worked with her material for guitar. (She plays a mean guitar too. How much talent can one person have???)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkRhodes
    Now I'll have to buy a Carol Kaye book of bass instruction. That's her main thing, but up until now I've only worked with her material for guitar. (She plays a mean guitar too. How much talent can one person have???)
    Amen to that!

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    Now that I'll have a bass as well as a guitar in my cramped room, I was thinking to get a stand.
    Well, I was always going to get SOMEthing to put it on. I assumed it would be a normal guitar stand.

    Then I saw this:
    Sorry! Something went wrong!

    My old Ibanez has been under the bed for over a year now (since I got a Tele), so with this I could have it out as well as the Tele and the bass.
    And it seems this would be easy to move around, if need be.

    Thoughts?

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    guitar rack stands are great for keeping out regularly played multiple guitars...don't know the specifics on that particular brand...the amazon reviews seem mixed...but there are plenty of other choices...

    do amazon search for-

    guitar rack stand 3 space


    cheers

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    Bronco bass, looks symmetrical, any stand should do (unlike a jazz bass which doesn't like many stands). I sure like wall mounts. One stand and two wall mounts and you're good to go, especially if you have a small room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkRhodes
    Now that I'll have a bass as well as a guitar in my cramped room, I was thinking to get a stand.
    Well, I was always going to get SOMEthing to put it on. I assumed it would be a normal guitar stand.

    Then I saw this:
    Sorry! Something went wrong!

    My old Ibanez has been under the bed for over a year now (since I got a Tele), so with this I could have it out as well as the Tele and the bass.
    And it seems this would be easy to move around, if need be.

    Thoughts?
    Road Runner RRGS6 6 Guitar Stand Case Black Tolex | Guitar Center

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    Quote Originally Posted by fep
    Bronco bass, looks symmetrical, any stand should do (unlike a jazz bass which doesn't like many stands). I sure like wall mounts. One stand and two wall mounts and you're good to go, especially if you have a small room.
    I'm thinking of wall mounts.
    It's so strange: I'm 62 years old and I own the condo I live in but a voice in my head tells me, "Don't put holes in the wall!" (More like a dreadful rumble in the pit of my stomach.) The baggage we grown folk can carry....

    As the sun sets tonight, I'm leaning in the direction of wall mounts. Saves floor space.

    The String Swing is a little more expensive than some (though not wildly so) but it has a good reputation. The yoke looks good too.

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    Congrats on the new bass, Mark!

    If you're not a regular there, check out the classifieds at Talk Bass -- always great used gear for sale, and some really good deals!

    Marc