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There's a cool looking one on reverb but when I asked the guy some questioned, he answered in in riddles. It was was very hard to get a straight answer and then when I asked him if he would accept an offer on it, he told me it was sold. Yet, hours later it's still there. I'd rather buy from someone I know...
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09-30-2024 04:40 PM
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JZ, are you thinking that a thinline version of a 175 might work for you better than the full size 175's that you have sold recently?
IIRC, those were Norlin made and will have Patent stamped T-Tops and a volute (not to mention a 14 degree peghead). My experience with the one that I played was that it was brighter than a full depth example. But a sample of one is rarely dispositive when it comes to guitars, especially Gibsons. Good luck!
Archtop.com has this one:
1976 Gibson ES-175 T
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Yes, both the 175 and L4 cause a lot of pain. It seems to be something possibly related to spinal issues because I never had the problem before. And the GB10/PM120 seem ok to play...
Originally Posted by Stringswinger
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by the way, that one is marked sold. Originally Posted by Stringswinger
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It still shows as available on their instrument page at 4500 and on Reverb at 5K Originally Posted by jzucker
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thanks, not sure about buying from him though... Originally Posted by Stringswinger
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I understand. Some guys sing his praises, others curse him. Caveot Emptor always applies. Originally Posted by jzucker
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You ever play a bambino deluxe? Would that a reasonable alternative? Originally Posted by Stringswinger
I'd love to find a borys jazz solid but those seem to be "unobtanium"...
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I have played a Bambino and a Bravo and consider them to be very different from a Gibson. With the price of used 175's where they are, the Benny's are pretty competitive. If you like their sound, they could be worth exploring. Originally Posted by jzucker
A chambered Lester can get you into the Borys solid world for less money. And while not easy to find, they are far more obtainable than the Borys. A friend has one and it is a remarkable guitar that does jazz damn well.
I have never found a better guitar for jazz than a 175, and believe me, I have tried. I guess I had to be sure.
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Have you tried the Eastman AR175 Thin ?
Light as a father and well built.
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Hi Jack,
I have a Gibson 175T I am not interested in selling, but I can give you my opinion of mine if you are interested.
(You can hear it in most of the videos that I have posted here including on your Giant Steps thread)
As someone already mentioned; it responds a bit differently than a "normal" 175.
Of course they didn't build this model in the 60's, which is my point of reference to a great ES175
Mine is from 1980 (I think) and I have replaced everything except the tailpiece and the pick-guard.
The pickups were very bad, frets really flat, and as a result the intonation was not very good.
The resonance is ok, but particularly in the higher register the sustain is quite short.
The pickups, stainless steel frets, tuners, TOM bridge, nut and electronics that I replaced have made a big improvement, but compared to the Moffa that I previously owned, is not in the same league.
I would say it is a good instrument but not a great one compared to some full size 175's that I have played.
Like you, I find the smaller thin-line bodies ergonomically more comfortable to play.
I play it because I love the Gibson sound and have not yet found the Moffa (or something else in this size) that I have been looking for to replace it.
The neck is great (but only 20 frets), the balance is good, and the basic sound is good, just not quite as clear and resonant as I would like. (and I actually mostly prefer laminated top guitars). Also, it can be played quite loud without feedback issues.
Hope that helps!Last edited by Question; 10-01-2024 at 01:00 PM.
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Thanks for your thoughts. Most gibson archtops have 20 frets. I actually owned a 175T and found it to be very 175ish but - as you would expect - not quite as full. Kind of reminded me of how my 175 sounded with f-hole plugs.
Regarding the eastman 175 thinline (from another poster), I have played the AR171/172 which the 175 thinline is based off off and thought they were very nasally sounding. I don't think they capture any part of the 175 vibe.
Originally Posted by Question
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Jack Z what about the Eastman 146 that’s listed right above this thread? Although it’s a bit different in wood construction,it’s a carved top I believe?
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not my cup of tea Originally Posted by jads57
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Jack Z you’ve probably owned one already, but doesn’t 77 Deviser or Jazz Hawk? Don’t they make a thin 175 thinner guitar?
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Yes they did, but I'm not sure they still do, as they now focus on their "Japan Tune Up" series Originally Posted by jads57
Maybe some can be found used
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for various reasons that I won't go into publicly, I wouldn't buy one of those. Originally Posted by 339 in june
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IMO a Byrdland was made for people with bad backs and hurting hands. They totally have that creamy CES tone also.
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i want a plywood maple top and 24.75 or higher scale. Not crazy about the smaller scale of the byrdland.
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Jack Z have you tried the Eastman Romeo?
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No, i do like the El Rey a lot except for the neck heavy issue and the cheap plastic inlays Originally Posted by jads57
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I believe most if not all 175Ts will have maple necks, as opposed to the traditional mahogany neck of the classic 175.
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I have no issue with that. Originally Posted by customxke
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Just cut down the rims of an ES-175 and you'll have what you want. Easy - any decent tech can do it for you.
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Mr Z. The Eastman T146 may not be your cup of tea but I would venture to say that with your chops you would make that thing a whole pot of tea for all to enjoy. Good luck with your search.
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