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Hi Folks,
I am beginning to move from comping jazz standards using Chord sheets to the beginning stages of working up solos and needing to write down my jazz lines. It seems there are an overwhelming number of sheet music software options out there. I thought I would check in here on the Forum to see what recommendations some of you might have for me to consider, your favorites or what are the top few most people use I should look at? I would like to be able to clearly lay out/document my jazz lines by measure. I would like to be able to add vocals into my sheets as the vocals help me keep track of where I am. The easier to use the better, I really feel like a dinosaur when it comes to using technology like this. I am not very good at it.
FYI Some Songs I have been working on.
Mood Indigo Bill Ward and Melvin Fong
My Blue Heaven, Bill Ward Rhythm Guitar and Vocals
Mood Indigo/Someone to watch over me Bill Ward Guitar and Vocals
Thanks in advance!
Bill
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10-20-2020 05:57 PM
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A lot of us, including myself, are using Musescore and it's free.
Free music composition and notation software | MuseScore
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Originally Posted by fep
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Originally Posted by sgcim
I have used this extra unwanted time to put some time in online Jazz courses and also documenting our bands 30 year history of playing together. Documenting our bands 30 year history in 3 chapters was much more fun than the Online Jazz instruction.The closest thing to jazz we played over the years has been Western Swing Music I am proud of but I am working hard to bring jazz music into our future repertoire. For those interested here are the final and 2 best chapters of this work I managed to get done due to the pandemic.
Western Lights, a 30 year History
of Treasured Memories and Music
Chapter 2, with Gene and Bobbie
Western Lights. a 30 year History
of Treasured Memories and Music,
Chapter 3, the Trio
Best Wishes to all!
Bill
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I haven't tried it, but you may be able to import other sounds into Musescore.
Or, if you render as MIDI from Musescore and then import into Reaper, you can get other sounds for Reaper.
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Bill....I recently tried the 30 day free trial of guitar pro....man...absolutely wonderful.....It is so intuitive those guys did a great job with this software....great for solo jazz tunes ( cord melody style)....but just over all great software.....
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Originally Posted by artcore
If it is ok with you maybe I could communicate with you via pm as I get into it?
Thanks my friend!
Bill
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Originally Posted by rpjazzguitar
One thing that MS has made me more sensitive to is how dissonances really stick out more than they would in a live situation, because everything is hitting you from the same physical sound source, whereas in live performance, the sound source is physically all spread out.
In my pre-MS writing, I'd stack tensions to try to be hip like Maria Schneider, but with MS, only the 'right' tensions seem to work.
At the same time, plain dom. 7th voicings sound like barbershop harmony on MS.
Marc Sabatella, a jazz pianist who used to post on the RMMGJ site, is one of the bigwigs on the MS forum site; I should bring it up with him there sometime.
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I haven't found the renderings with Musescore of an entire 4 horn track to sound very good. I use them to hear the arrangement in the writing process, but that's mostly it.
For lead sheets I've often used the harmonica sound for melody (which is converted by Reaper into Tango Accordion, which sounds like I'm kidding, but I'm not).
I do like the Acoustic Bass sound in MuseScore and I've made use of it, and a few of the percussion sounds, in a final track. I have one where I preferred it to the live bassist. Unfair comparison, of course, since Musescore played the exact line I wrote whereas the live bassist, for some reason, had a mind of his own <g>.
The piano sound isn't bad, but it's hard to write out a really good piano part because you have to nail the ringing notes as the part moves along.
If you can write out a part well you can export to Midi, import into DAW and have the DAW render the sounds. That may provide a lot more flexibiity.
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sure Bill...I didn't use all the features but if I can help..would be glad to...I think you will find it very friendly....its a tab program...
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Originally Posted by artcore
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Regarding Guitar Pro: there's also tuxguitar which is the same but it's free....
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Originally Posted by rpjazzguitar
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Originally Posted by 44lombard
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Originally Posted by rpjazzguitar
The saxophones and clarinets all sound like freaking accordions to me, both solo and in harmony. This is especially annoying on the sax solis, which sound like an accordion playing a chord solo.
The flute sound, OTOH, doesn't involve a reed so it has a much superior sound to the other woodwinds on MS, As a result, I'm using flutes way more than might be practical, because it sounds so great compared to the alto sax, especially on ballads. It also sets you free on the higher range spectrum of sound, so you don't have to worry about going higher than Ab on the Concert Pitch setting for the alto saxes.
The downside to this is when we get back to live playing, you're at the mercy of alto and tenor players who double on flute. Unless they're being paid for it, most sax players would rather not double on flute, and might not even bring one with them. There's also the problem with dynamics in a jazz big band. The flutes get buried completely by unmuted brass instruments, and even the remaining sax players have to play at piano and pianissimo levels to allow the flutes to cut through without a microphone.
Add to this that a study I read here said that the flute is the most COVID-19 spreading instrument in the orchestra, because the air is directed across the sound hole rather than directly into the instrument, like all the other brass and wind instruments, and you've got a set up logistics problem that might be insurmountable.
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Musescore is a notation software to create sheet music. I like it much better than Sibelius (and it's free)
But it's not a DAW. See the audio output provided is a tool to help you hear what you're doing. Also it's perfect for proof reading your score. Proofreading scores without listening to it is a pain in the ear as you all know. (pun intended)
The sound output of Musescore is achieved through a sound font file (MuseScore_General.sf3 in the Musescore program folder). You can try to better the sound by installing another sound font file (must be GM/GS compatible) and registering it inside MS, but don't expect too much.
If you really want to use your sheet music input to make a real production you'd better transfer your stuff to some DAW (like Reaper) with the help of the standard MIDI file format. Don't forget, whatever you entered in MS is maximum quantized, so unless you do Techno, Idk if this will make you happy ...Last edited by DonEsteban; 04-14-2021 at 09:16 AM.
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