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    It's been a rough laptop computer month, I'll spare the details.
    One possible path of redemption is purchasing something newer than my MacBook Pro 2010.
    This unfortunately presents the conundrum of Thunderbolt 2 and 3.

    What I have always done and am determined to continue to do is take an audio line out (headphone input)
    to an audio in input. Till now this was accomplished via a simple Radio Shack mini plug.
    The newer machines still have the mini plug headphone out.
    How do I adapt that to Thunderbolt audio in?

    Thanks in advance.

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    not exactly sure what you are trying to do...take what? from where and go where??...but going from headphone out is never the best sonically!! impedences are weird..same for any input jacks on older computers..never meant for highest fidelity

    furthermore you are in even deeper trouble, as radio shack is now gone as well!!! haha

    sounds like you need a thunderbolt interface

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    cheers
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    If you have an existing USB or Firewire audio interface then I would look into a Thunderbolt to USB or Thunderbolt to Firewire adapter, there's also Thunderbolt docks which provide USB2/USB3 ports and sometimes Displayport ports.

    I've also been looking at the current Apple offerings and I think using the adapters would be an easier way to move into the new Apple's without having to replace all my USB goodies (I'm far from being ready to ditch my RME USB audio interfaces and USB backup drives).

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    What I do with my present laptop is go from a mini plug headphone out to a mini plug audio in. I am consciously making
    a low fi recording of songs that I need to learn for gigs. From the Audacity aiff, I put it in Transcribe to avail myself of
    slower tempo, looping sections and transposing as needed. When I'm done learning a song, I erase it.
    This is what I am hoping to continue doing.

    My present 2010 laptop may not survive much longer and I was looking at some relatively newer Macs.
    I looked at that Sweetwater page, but as I'm not trying to fashion a quality home recording situation those items
    far exceed my need and budget. The Thunderbolt dock seem like a good concept but I have yet to find one that provided
    a solution to this particular quest.

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    Ok, I spoke to Apple direct and I see that my problem was that I was searching using
    Thunderbolt-3 and mini-plug instead of USB-C and 3.5. Using the correct search words,
    I get multiple results for connectors that will accomplish what I need.
    Thanks for the responses.

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    Just be careful going into an Apple store if your over 45: a few years ago I went into an Apple store to buy a new laptop and was told they couldn't help me because the "older customer specialist" wasn't in so I would have to make an appointment and come back when the "older customer specialist" was available (no joke). I told them I've been a programmer since I got an Apple II in high school but no luck, even with 30+ years programming including Apple II, Mac's & iPhones I was not allowed to purchase a specific pre-configured model in the Apple store without scheduling an appointment with an "older customer specialist" appointment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxTwang View Post
    Just be careful going into an Apple store if your over 45: a few years ago I went into an Apple store to buy a new laptop and was told they couldn't help me because the "older customer specialist" wasn't in so I would have to make an appointment and come back when the "older customer specialist" was available (no joke). I told them I've been a programmer since I got an Apple II in high school but no luck, even with 30+ years programming including Apple II, Mac's & iPhones I was not allowed to purchase a specific pre-configured model in the Apple store without scheduling an appointment with an "older customer specialist" appointment.
    This has to be a joke, right? I mean, you could not buy it?
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    When I went for help on a different problem with a "Mac Genius" for my long out of warranty laptop,
    they were friendly and helpful. What isn't so friendly and helpful is that the company no longer supports
    and makes parts for machines that are not so old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bako View Post
    When I went for help on a different problem with a "Mac Genius" for my long out of warranty laptop,
    they were friendly and helpful. What isn't so friendly and helpful is that the company no longer supports
    and makes parts for machines that are not so old.

    Worse they fingerprint their parts. I did tech support for the post production department as well as audio work. Apple will use name brand components in systems, but when they die trying to replace them with same part bought from a computer store instead Apple the drivers won't work or the part won't work at all. You have to buy the same part from Apple at a higher price. Even simple replacement parts don't always work. Sun Microsystems started this fingerprinting part back in the day and Apple copied the idea. Apple is all about handcuffing customers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by furtom View Post
    This has to be a joke, right? I mean, you could not buy it?
    They wouldn't talk to me beyond telling me I had to make an appointment with the old folks specialist. I went home and ordered online.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxTwang View Post
    They wouldn't talk to me beyond telling me I had to make an appointment with the old folks specialist. I went home and ordered online.
    Huh. Millennials. Whaddayagonnado?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bako View Post
    When I went for help on a different problem with a "Mac Genius" for my long out of warranty laptop,
    they were friendly and helpful. What isn't so friendly and helpful is that the company no longer supports
    and makes parts for machines that are not so old.
    7 years is pretty old for computers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxTwang View Post
    ... I went home and ordered online.
    After first whacking the Genius over the head with your walker, I assume.

    That is pretty flippin' weird. I've never experienced anything like that. It also sounds like a pretty flagrant violation of age discrimination law, and I bet Apple Corporate would be less than tickled to hear this story.

    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by John A. View Post
    After first whacking the Genius over the head with your walker, I assume.

    That is pretty flippin' weird. I've never experienced anything like that. It also sounds like a pretty flagrant violation of age discrimination law, and I bet Apple Corporate would be less than tickled to hear this story.

    John
    I go in Apple stores all the time. I'm 62 and... I look it... but I've never encountered this. Seriously, Never. They always will take my money if there's something I want to buy. I've asked questions, bought computers, iPads, iPhones, accessories, been helped by a range of staff ages and such, but never once encountered the possibility that they needed an old-person specialist.

    Maybe that was just that one store?
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    7 years is pretty old for computers.
    Maybe so, but like my 2001 Camry, I would like to be able to continue servicing a machine
    that does what I need and not be forced prematurely into upgrading. I suspect they could
    have licensed a company to continue to manufacture replacement parts when they chose
    to move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bako View Post
    Maybe so, but like my 2001 Camry, I would like to be able to continue servicing a machine
    that does what I need and not be forced prematurely into upgrading. I suspect they could
    have licensed a company to continue to manufacture replacement parts when they chose
    to move on.

    In Apple marketing talks projections are based on idea customers will replace iphones in 1.5 years, and computers in 3 years. Auto industry there was I don't know if still is a government requirement manufactures make replacement parts for ten years. I don't know of any other industry the government had requirements like that for definitely not computers. Apple's history they are notorious for abandoning hardware and software.
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    Quote Originally Posted by docbop View Post
    In Apple marketing talks projections are based on idea customers will replace iphones in 1.5 years, and computers in 3 years. Auto industry there was I don't know if still is a government requirement manufactures make replacement parts for ten years. I don't know of any other industry the government had requirements like that for definitely not computers. Apple's history they are notorious for abandoning hardware and software.
    This last sentence is just not true. I have had Apple products since 1985 and have always managed to keep using them long past the times that Windows machines (or DOS back then) needed to be discarded to run contemporary software. I don't know what your beef is that you never miss a chance to dig at Apple, but in my 30+ years of using Apple products, I have always been impressed that I could run "new" software on pretty old machines, passing computers down to my kids, using them as back-up machines at work. I currently have one that is 12 years old running nicely in a learning lab next door.

    Apple is not "notorious for abandoning hardware and software." Every company eventually does have to stop supporting out-dated equipment. Apple, in my experience, compared with colleagues over the same period, has done much better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lawson-stone View Post
    This last sentence is just not true. I have had Apple products since 1985 and have always managed to keep using them long past the times that Windows machines (or DOS back then) needed to be discarded to run contemporary software. I don't know what your beef is that you never miss a chance to dig at Apple, but in my 30+ years of using Apple products, I have always been impressed that I could run "new" software on pretty old machines, passing computers down to my kids, using them as back-up machines at work. I currently have one that is 12 years old running nicely in a learning lab next door.

    Apple is not "notorious for abandoning hardware and software." Every company eventually does have to stop supporting out-dated equipment. Apple, in my experience, compared with colleagues over the same period, has done much better.

    I stand behind every word I said I go back dealing with Apple to the 80's., worked for Mac companies, hung with the original Mac developers, wisely turned down a job offer from Apple. So I am very familiar with Apple history. So not going to argue with you just stating I was there.
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    Apple's OS's won't install on 'unsupported' older models, even if that hardware exceeds the minimum requirements for the new OS. OS installs check the model ID and not the components: if you upgrade CPU, ram, drive, etc. you'll still be locked out of newer OS's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxTwang View Post
    Apple's OS's won't install on 'unsupported' older models, even if that hardware exceeds the minimum requirements for the new OS. OS installs check the model ID and not the components: if you upgrade CPU, ram, drive, etc. you'll still be locked out of newer OS's.
    that of course is true, but what I meant was that the time-lag before a piece of hardware is no longer supported by new software seems, in my experience, to be much longer than my Windows-using colleagues see on their machines. All hardware eventually becomes unsupported for the newest software. I think Apple does a good job of keeping older machines in the loop as long as possible.
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