Are Neuraldsp plugins THE gamechanger?

[Stefan Eff]

I‘m a tube snob since my first guitar lessons and I‘ve always hated all that mimics and modelers (at least the ones I‘ve tried). But yet I‘ve played the Neuraldsp Tone King plugin and I‘m blown away. It‘s not only sounding like the real Amp- no differences hearable - it FEELS like the real amp.


What do you guys think?

[vintagelove]

"Sounding" and "feeling" like a "real amp" are debatable, especially when it comes to individual tolerance of latency. But...


I would say the ToneX platform is really the game changer. They have priced it so aggressively, and have packed it with so many features, that it demonstrates they are determined to own that market. As for sound, they are all pretty much on par with each other.

[Stefan Eff]

…not my kind of tone but it nails what neuraldsp has reached:

And I don‘t admit any latency from the plugin.

[DawgBone]

In a world where everything has gone digital I'm clinging to my real amps.

[Steve Z]

The Neural DSP Tone King Imperial is what I use. It comes with a plugin that is installed into Logic, but if I just plugin to practice, I use the standalone app. Loving it!

[Stefan Eff]

…the more I play this plugin the more I love it. I don’t miss my tube amps, honestly.

[Steve Z]

Download the trial of the Morgan amps plugin and give it a go. There’s a preset called “archtop” or something like that… make a tele sound rather full. Definitely doesn’t turn a tele into something it’s not, but a nice full clean (with slight overdrive… aka Kenny Burrell tone).

[Stefan Eff]

^ Thanks, I‘ve tried the Morgan plugin but like the Toneking much more, just personal taste. I even don‘t need a fatter Tele tone since I mostly play my own Tvcaster guitars (Teletypes). They got a fat and hollow-like tone due to their construction and pickups:


TVcaster „Broadmaster“

I found the cabsim section most interesting to shape your tone, on the other hand it takes time to check all the different microphones, their placements and combinations The Toneking sounds even great with the cabsim disabled, you‘ll achieve a fantastic attack this way.

My only point of critisism is the „built in“ Reverb. It‘s too subtle and therefore for me not usable, I hope they‘ll fix that in an update.

[stevus]

Am I missing something? Isn't the sound quality of these plugins also dependent on the quality of interface and speakers you are using?

[drbhrb]

I just got the Cory Wong set and I'm really happy with it for clean jazz tones

[emanresu]

There's no way that the simulation could be "better" than your own, ever. Yet, the difference can be so tiny that it doesn't matter at all.
Probably will kill the real amp business. Because the comfort and variety. Which is very sad.

[Stefan Eff]

Am I missing something? Isn't the sound quality of these plugins also dependent on the quality of interface and speakers you are using?

Sure, but todays interfaces (even budget products) are pretty good. A pair of good (neutral) speakers also won‘t break the bank. I‘ve also bought the Mateus Asato plugin and I‘m blown away. It‘s fantastic.

A very important factor is the CPU power and the RAM of your computer, those plugins are hungry.

[Stefan Eff]

There's no way that the simulation could be "better" than your own, ever. Yet, the difference can be so tiny that it doesn't matter at all.
Probably will kill the real amp business. Because the comfort and variety. Which is very sad.

It‘s not only comfort and variety. It‘s tone, dynamics and feel.

[pingu]

is this for playing at home only ?

or for playing out ?

[Stefan Eff]

is this for playing at home only ?

or for playing out ?

It‘s mainly for recording and playing at home. You can use it also for gigging, but honestly I wouldn‘t use it live this way.