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    On Reddit, an American social network, can be found a group called r/jazzguitar. In a post to this group, a user known as CaseyMahoneyJCON has listed the twenty-seven jazz guitarists who have over 100,000 monthly listeners on Spotify, a Swedish audio streaming and media service provider. George Benson (5.3 million monthly listens) is by far the most heard, although not necessarily for his jazz guitar. The others have more modest achievements, listed here in order:


    Wes Montgomery 804K

    Pat Metheny 600K

    Jim Hall 530K

    Django Reinhardt 518K

    Charlie Byrd 478K

    Charlie Hunter 471K

    Kenny Burrell 362K

    Gabor Szabo 357K

    Norman Brown 352K

    Julian Lage 329K

    Joe Pass 318K

    Earl Klugh 317K

    Grant Green 324K

    John Scofield 270K

    Al Di Meola 269K

    Les Paul 261K

    Bill Frisell 247K

    John McLaughlin 214K

    Kurt Rosenwinkel 197K

    Johnny Smith 154K

    Pat Martino 160K

    Barney Kessel 128K

    Larry Coryell 115K

    Tal Farlow 115K

    George Van Eps 115K

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    Interesting, but oddly skewed stat. This is looking at jazz guitarists as solo artists which is pretty far from determining a “most heard” since the majority of many of their recordings will be in band and combo settings. Think of how many listens someone like Freddie Green or Herb Ellis likely have. Barney Kessel’s numbers would be way higher.

    Not to knock an amazing talent like Charlie Hunter, but most of those listeners are only paying attention to one or two songs. He has one done with double the listens of the next somg and then it falls off a cliff to number three. Granted, his studio work for other artists would skyrocket his number of listens.

    Benson has those vast numbers largely because of his R&B work. Nothings Going to Change My Love for You has nearly 200M plays. The other top songs are mainly R&B.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatRhythmMan
    Interesting, but oddly skewed stat. This is looking at jazz guitarists as solo artists which is pretty far from determining a “most heard” since the majority of many of their recordings will be in band and combo settings....
    True, still, allowing for all that, I'm still surprised to see Jim Hall so high up, and players like Barney Kessel and Pat Martino so low.
    Many notable omissions on that short list, how long into such a list before we see Herb Ellis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by princeplanet
    True, still, allowing for all that, I'm still surprised to see Jim Hall so high up, and players like Barney Kessel and Pat Martino so low.
    Many notable omissions on that short list, how long into such a list before we see Herb Ellis?
    I would think Herb's most popular takes are on Oscar Peterson records.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanAllen
    I would think Herb's most popular takes are on Oscar Peterson records.
    Ed Bickert and Jim Hall on Paul Desmond records too.

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    No offense to Wes, but I have to think most of those are algorithm-generated playlists (e.g., "Relaxing Instrumental Jazz). I can't imagine the vast majority of Spotify users even know who he is compared to Pat Metheny and other more contemporary players.

    And Charlie Bird...Gabor Szabo...Norman Brown...not a reflection on their talents, but they're not exactly household names to your average music streaming service listener.

    Billy Strings btw has 1.6 million monthly members. I would bet he is one of the more streamed guitarists out there who is actively touring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Jeff
    No offense to Wes, but I have to think most of those are algorithm-generated playlists (e.g., "Relaxing Instrumental Jazz). I can't imagine the vast majority of Spotify users even know who he is compared to Pat Metheny and other more contemporary players.

    And Charlie Bird...Gabor Szabo...Norman Brown...not a reflection on their talents, but they're not exactly household names to your average music streaming service listener.

    Billy Strings btw has 1.6 million monthly members. I would bet he is one of the more streamed guitarists out there who is actively touring.
    Billy Strings isn't jazz though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanAllen
    Billy Strings isn't jazz though.
    No but he is a guitarist and is one of the most streamed actively touring guitarists out there.

    (Note I am not including Benson, who doesn’t tour much these days and is probably streamed much more for his vocal pop songs than his jazz stuff. Nor people like John Mayer with 15 million monthly streams—most popular songs by far are his pop songs.)

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    “Most popular jazz” is a funny phrase these days.

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    One million Spotify streams pays 3-5000$ usually. Artists get from 14-20% up to 50% of that if they have a really good contract, write their stuff etc. So it would be anything from 450-2500$ per month. And music streaming is 84% of music industry revenue today, so basically that's about it.

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    For perspective, I'm about 320k of Grant Green's monthly listens

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
    For perspective, I'm about 320k of Grant Green's monthly listens
    Last year I was in the 99th percentile for Chet Baker and Ahmad Jamal listeners. I heard a lot of good music that year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Jeff
    No offense to Wes, but I have to think most of those are algorithm-generated playlists (e.g., "Relaxing Instrumental Jazz). I can't imagine the vast majority of Spotify users even know who he is compared to Pat Metheny and other more contemporary players.
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    I don't buy that. I hang out with Pandora. Many of the smooth or contemporary guitarists exceed West Montgomery and most traditional Jazz guitarists.

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    You're not allowed to say Billy Strings on this forum.

    BZZZTT!!

    OUCH!


    See what I mean?

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    Musicians have contracts with Spotify? Who makes the contract happen the musician or Spotify? I thought with Spotify and Pandora they just stream musicians. I never thought about the selection process happens. So I could just approach Spotify and say hey I want my songs on Spotify let's work out a contract?

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    Doesn't work that way. There are companies like CDBaby, Orchard, Distrokid that do digital distribution, meaning you upload your music to them and they upload it to every streaming service on the internet. Some of them charge an one time fee and take percentages of your digital earnings, others charge per year, etc. For reference, CDBaby charges an one time fee 10$ for an album and takes 9% of your digital earnings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voyage
    Musicians have contracts with Spotify? Who makes the contract happen the musician or Spotify? I thought with Spotify and Pandora they just stream musicians. I never thought about the selection process happens. So I could just approach Spotify and say hey I want my songs on Spotify let's work out a contract?
    Beyoncé and Taylor Swift get Spotify contracts.

    Nobodies like you and me are allowed to pay for our songs to be uploaded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanAllen
    Beyoncé and Taylor Swift get Spotify contracts.

    Nobodies like you and me are allowed to pay for our songs to be uploaded.
    Yeah more medium (or less enormous) artists it would probably be the label working out the contract.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voyage
    Musicians have contracts with Spotify? Who makes the contract happen the musician or Spotify? I thought with Spotify and Pandora they just stream musicians. I never thought about the selection process happens. So I could just approach Spotify and say hey I want my songs on Spotify let's work out a contract?
    You pay a fee to a distributor, such as DistroKid, which will handle the licensing and distribution to Spotify and other streaming services, and pay you the royalties. Artists and labels can pitch a song to Spotify's playlist editors, seven days before release, in the hope of the song being added to a playlist.

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    Sonny Sharrock?