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Originally Posted by Jazzjourney4Eva
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06-05-2023 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Jazzjourney4Eva
It's a tough push pull. Do I think music lessons at a young age are good for kids, whether they like it or not? Almost universally yes.
But I also didn't want to force my kids into something I love because I love it. And I'll be honest, right now, letting them "free range" a bit for the summer, now that school sports and clubs are done, riding bikes til the streetlights come on as opposed to shuffling them from activity to activity like I see some parents...I feel like I'm making the right choice. If one of them eventually comes to me and says, "I want to learn how to play the guitar" I'll be ready...with a teacher that isn't ME
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Originally Posted by jameslovestal
A less schooled but more experienced coder may have discovered or seen those patterns in source code and used them over the years but they wouldn't know their names. They may not have even conceptualized them as abstract "design patterns" but think of them as concrete solutions. But they would have much better intuitions as to what exactly these tools achieve and how to used them.
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Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
But yeah, kids also need to be kids. So you’re doing the right thing IMO. As for teaching the child yourself? It’s been proven over and over again that it’s easier for people to take advice/instruction from an outside expert than from internal agents.
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Just heard about a kid who was my son's buddy when they were younger, whose parents pushed to play tennis so he would become a pro. Now 17, he quit playing altogether, even for leisure, and all he's interested in is partying. It doesn't necessarily turn out like that but it's a real risk...
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Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
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Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
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Music education in the US, at least, is affected by how education in general is funded and thus administered, and those, in turn, are affected by cultural-political matters. When public-school budgets are under pressure, it's often "the arts" that get sacrificed in order to keep "the basics" going. (BTW, sports programs, especially football and basketball, tend to be seen as basic.) A string-teacher friend was progressively marginalized in the public-school system (part-time/circuit-rider status) as programs were reduced, until she became a private-lessons provider (and performer)--and is acknowledged locally as a first-rate teacher/mentor. But her situation is that of a small-business owner.
Such cuts and reductions percolate through the ed system, since public-college music programs tend to produce K-12 music teachers and band leaders (the latter of which have a sideways connection with sports), even though the bigger departments also have performance concentrations. Our local university (charitably a third-level institution in Minnesota's environment) preserves these structures, and the budgetary pressures common in the K-12 world operate here as well--the theatre program has been all but eliminated, and music might well be in line for a similar treatment. (Don't get me started on administrations that reduce library staff and humanities teachers while hiring new managerial bureaucrats.)
My impression is that major general-service universities maintain healthy music programs, with a handful (Indiana, North Texas) having conservatory-like reputations the way that some schools have high-profile theatre programs (Carnegie-Mellon, Northwestern, Yale).
There's something socio-cultural-economically going on with the production of high-performing young classical players--"From the Top" on public radio is a showcase for very accomplished kids in that world, and I wonder what a survey of their backgrounds would reveal.
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Originally Posted by Jazzjourney4Eva
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Originally Posted by Tal_175
One of the books that describes jazz learning the best - Situated Learning - doesn’t talk about music at all. It’s about trade apprenticeships.
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Originally Posted by RLetson
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Originally Posted by ThatRhythmMan
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Originally Posted by Jazzjourney4Eva
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Originally Posted by ThatRhythmMan
I guess a question might be - should music be a big priority at American schools, and if so, what style of music?
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Originally Posted by RLetson
I feel for teachers who seek to inspire young minds but must put up with disruptive students who won't be expelled and stultifying curriculum.
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Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
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Originally Posted by Kirk Garrett
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Originally Posted by pamosmusic
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Originally Posted by pamosmusic
Jim really is the father of modern jazz guitar...and yet, he obviously stems from the CC root of the tree...
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