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  1. #51

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    I like the Top 20 idea - 10 was tough!
    Now I need to add to my original list:
    - John Abercrombie
    - Wolfgang Muthspiel
    - John Moulder
    - Mike Moreno

    and still probably more as I keep thinking about them!

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  3. #52

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
    I gotta say about Django, to my ears his playing never sounded flashy for the sake of being flashy.

    Which is NOT something I can say about "Django style" players in general...
    I agree! Several years ago I caught Django fever. What killed it for me was playing with other guitar players and what became know as Gypsy Jazz.
    Not much listening going on, lots of shredding, no dynamics, mostly fast tempos and a certain snobby purist philosophy.
    Django's music is definitely not that at all!

    But I must say the younger guys had/have chops beyond belief!

    Now I just sometimes play jazz on my Selmer type guitar...
    Last edited by Ronstuff; 03-26-2021 at 05:46 PM.

  4. #53

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
    I gotta say about Django, to my ears his playing never sounded flashy for the sake of being flashy.

    Which is NOT something I can say about "Django style" players in general...
    Exactly! He was just playing the absolute best notes for the song. He just knew a lot of them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by christianm77
    My list of jazz guitar influences is actually way too long and diverse to make any sense really. It would basically read as a condensed history of jazz guitar.

    Might be quicker to make a list of players I don’t think have influenced me much if AT ALL (no reflection on how good I think they are, they are all great, just haven’t influenced me much.)

    my anti influences
    - Pat Metheny
    - George Benson
    - Kenny Burrell
    - Al Di Meola

    actually that might be it...
    That kinda surprises me, as you tend to have strong opinions on Metheny


    But yeah .. Al Di Meola is a strange creature .. I've actually listened a quite a bit to him at one point simply cause I thought I had to after all he is one of the big names, but nothing rubs off .. There is something empty in his playing .. Weird.

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    So hard to keep it to ten!

    Charlie Christian
    Billy Bauer
    Wes Montgomery
    Tal Farlow
    George Benson
    Pat Martino
    John Mcglaughlin
    Jim Hall
    Lennie Breau
    Joe Pass


    Jimmy Raney
    Mark Elf
    Ed Bickert

  7. #56

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    Top 10 based on my CD collection:

    Wes Montgomery
    Kenny Burrell
    Jim Hall
    Pat Metheny
    Ralph Towner
    John Scofield
    Bill Frisell
    John McLaughlin
    George Benson
    Bireli Lagrene

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    Quote Originally Posted by kris
    Each selected guitarist should also contain the number of CDs that the typist has.
    OK, that's it. I have heard some excellent tracks, mostly just audio, posted under your name and I'm going to assume that you (ie, Kris) played on them. Respect. However IMHO, you need to do two things: 1) stop telling other grown-up guys how they should conduct themselves 2) sack (fire) your translator.

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    I won't bother listing my other nine because they've been mentioned many times.
    I haven't seen any mention of one of my all time favorites... Joe Diorio.
    I listen to him at least every other day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter C
    OK, that's it. I have heard some excellent tracks, mostly just audio, posted under your name and I'm going to assume that you (ie, Kris) played on them. Respect. However IMHO, you need to do two things: 1) stop telling other grown-up guys how they should conduct themselves 2) sack (fire) your translator.
    I think kris was just saying "list how many CD's you have by your favorites."

    Which would put Pat Metheny on my list, for sure...

  11. #60

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
    I think kris was just saying "list how many CD's you have by your favorites."

    Which would put Pat Metheny on my list, for sure...
    exactly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter C
    OK, that's it. I have heard some excellent tracks, mostly just audio, posted under your name and I'm going to assume that you (ie, Kris) played on them. Respect. However IMHO, you need to do two things: 1) stop telling other grown-up guys how they should conduct themselves 2) sack (fire) your translator.
    Relax, I don't conduct anyone.
    I know my English is not good - sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
    I think kris was just saying "list how many CD's you have by your favorites."

    Which would put Pat Metheny on my list, for sure...
    Thank you Jeff for your support.

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    My additional 10:

    • Howard Roberts
    • Johnny Smith
    • Mundell Lowe
    • George Barnes
    • Peter Bernstein
    • Anthony Wilson
    • John Pizzarelli
    • Earl Klugh
    • Mark Whitfield
    • Russell Malone

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonD
    I won't bother listing my other nine because they've been mentioned many times.
    I haven't seen any mention of one of my all time favorites... Joe Diorio.
    I listen to him at least every other day.
    Yes!! Perfect - thanks for adding Joe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter C
    OK, that's it. I have heard some excellent tracks, mostly just audio, posted under your name and I'm going to assume that you (ie, Kris) played on them. Respect. However IMHO, you need to do two things: 1) stop telling other grown-up guys how they should conduct themselves 2) sack (fire) your translator.
    I am Kris.Special for Peter C:

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    I sort of have two lists--List one is the ten I indicated above. List two is the list that wzpgsr posted above--a group of younger, more recent players who nevertheless have influenced me (except Izzy).

    Then, again, I have a BIG ONE list. Nobody has influenced my playing more than Charlie Christian. When I pick up a guitar I have to consciously think "don't play like CC," or else everything I play comes out like swing guitar.

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    OK Kris, I would have a party jamming with you - I like the way you put your whole body into the funk, but your English could be better. It's got nothing to do with "conducting people". I want you to understand that there is no ill will in my words. (edited)
    Last edited by Peter C; 03-29-2021 at 05:30 AM.

  19. #68

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    Kris

    Djien dobry panu!

    GT

  20. #69

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greentone
    Kris

    Djien dobry panu!

    GT
    Good morning Mr. Greentone,
    I love jazz- kocham jazz.

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    Laying down 10 without thinking about it; just 10 favorites who come immediately to mind. I'd say in no particular order, except that Wes would go at the top no matter who else I'd name.

    Wes Montgomery
    Pat Martino
    Kenny Burrell
    Joe Pass
    Jim Hall
    Peter Bernstein
    John Scofield
    Steve Masakowski
    George Benson
    Pat Metheny

    John

  22. #71

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litterick
    I loathe lists.
    The correct spelling is Liszt and he was a penist.

  23. #72

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    In no particular order:

    Jimmy Raney
    Barney Kessel
    Jimmy Raney
    Barney Kessel
    Jimmy Raney
    Barney Kessel
    Jimmy Raney
    Barney Kessel
    Jimmy Raney
    Barney Kessel

    Can I add 10 more?

  24. #73

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight Blues
    As it relates to Jazz only and not necessarily in order after KB:

    Wes (1)
    Kenny Burrell (1A)
    Royce Campbell
    Lee Ritenour
    Alessio Menconi
    Joe Passalaqua
    Chuck Loeb
    Steve Laury
    René Thomas
    Herb Ellis
    Joseph Antony Jacobi Passalaqua, to be 100% correct

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  25. #74

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    The ones I’ve listened to the most

    Wes Montgomery
    Grant Green
    Joe Pass
    Charlie Christian
    Emily Remler
    Jim Hall
    Lenny Breau
    Pat Martino
    Barney Kessel
    John McLaughlin


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    Quote Originally Posted by christianm77
    Also does anyone else go through phases? Like just getting into one player’s approach for about six months.
    I do that. Tried a few times to do top ten but couldn't. Thought I'd try something different and work back thru some of the phases I remember over 50 years:

    Grant Green - on a Bluenote kick for the last 6 months
    Doug Raney - never listened to him enough before
    Miles Okazaki - because 'Work'. Still listen to it often while working
    Julian Lage - he played in my tiny town
    Jim Hall - never listened to him enough before
    Wes - rediscovering jazz guitar

    (nobody for a few decades)

    John McLaughlin
    Sonny Greenwich
    Wes
    Django

    I'd also like to mention Mark Kleinhaut. Wouldn't say I'm in a phase, but hey... he kinda lives here and I dig his posts. Gotta get caught up...

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    Benson
    Grant Green
    Jimmy Ponder
    Wes
    Joe Pass
    Django
    Peter Bernstein
    Herb Ellis
    Jesse Van Ruller
    Martin van Iterson

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    Wow. I'll go with the names that just jumped immediately into mind, with no particular thought as to who I should include. They are also not necessarily direct influences, I just love listening to them. Oddly enough, not even ten!

    Ed Bickert
    Jim Hall
    Peter Bernstein
    Jonathan Kreisberg
    Gene Bertoncini
    Johnny Smith

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    Quote Originally Posted by christianm77
    4) Kurt Rosenwinkel (1998-2010)
    I'm basically with you on this but I would go with 1993 - 2005. I started losing interest when he started messing around with all of the digital gear and his tone became super processed. He's basically unlistenable to me now that there is absolutely no attack in his sound. It's like he's completely removed any natural percussiveness that the guitar possesses. I do think there have been some really incredible highlights since 2005, like "Star of Jupiter" and "Mr. Hope" from the Star of Jupiter recording, "Chords" from The Remedy live recording, and "Zhivago" and "Turns" from the Our Secret World album.

    My top 10:

    Scofield
    Jim Hall
    Metheny
    Wes
    Rosenwinkel '93-'05 :-)
    John Abercrombie
    Bill Frisell
    Jimmy Raney
    Lage Lund
    Wolfgang Muthspiel

    I love Scott Henderson, Mike Miller and Allan Holdsworth too as much as some of these other players but I would probably put them in their own category.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matcarsa
    Joseph Antony Jacobi Passalaqua, to be 100% correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bebop Tom
    Wes Montgomery



    The space after Wes’ name was done on purpose because for me there is no one close to his greatness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbromusic
    I'm basically with you on this but I would go with 1993 - 2005. I started losing interest when he started messing around with all of the digital gear and his tone became super processed. He's basically unlistenable to me now that there is absolutely no attack in his sound. It's like he's completely removed any natural percussiveness that the guitar possesses. I do think there have been some really incredible highlights since 2005, like "Star of Jupiter" and "Mr. Hope" from the Star of Jupiter recording, "Chords" from The Remedy live recording, and "Zhivago" and "Turns" from the Our Secret World album.

    My top 10:

    Scofield
    Jim Hall
    Metheny
    Wes
    Rosenwinkel '93-'05 :-)
    John Abercrombie
    Bill Frisell
    Jimmy Raney
    Lage Lund
    Wolfgang Muthspiel

    I love Scott Henderson, Mike Miller and Allan Holdsworth too as much as some of these other players but I would probably put them in their own category.
    Have you heard Kurt's latest, "Angels Around"? I don't like a lot of his stuff including the early records but this is just an inventive jazz guitar trio record with a pleasant tone on the guitar.

    If I had to try to make a list myself,

    Jim Hall
    Peter Bernstein
    Julian Lage
    Ed Bickert
    Baden Powell
    Luiz Bonfa
    Bireli Lagrene
    Joao Gilberto
    Jonathan Kreisberg
    Wes

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    Quote Originally Posted by drbhrb
    Have you heard Kurt's latest, "Angels Around"? I don't like a lot of his stuff including the early records but this is just an inventive jazz guitar trio record with a pleasant tone on the guitar.
    Yes. I got it the day it came out. His tone on this album is exactly what I was talking about in my post. Super processed with no attack. The lines that he plays are brilliant but his tone is a complete turn-off for me.

  34. #83

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    Ernest Ranglin
    Sco
    Bill Frisell (earlier period)
    Pat Martino
    Charlie Christian
    Django
    Mike Stern
    Wes
    Jim Hall
    Andrey Ryabov (he was my first jazz teacher)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbromusic
    Yes. I got it the day it came out. His tone on this album is exactly what I was talking about in my post. Super processed with no attack. The lines that he plays are brilliant but his tone is a complete turn-off for me.
    Ah, different tastes. I'm much more put off by his early Next Step, Deep Song etc tones.

  36. #85

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    I am in! Not in any order:

    Joe Pass
    Pat Martino
    Jimmy Bruno
    Julian Lage
    Wes Montgomery
    John Scofield
    Les Paul
    Kenny Burrell
    Grant Green
    Allan Holdsworth (I think, he was so far beyond my compehension that he ought to be on the list)

    Just my opinion, FWIW.

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    Bill Jennings (and Billy Butler... because of that one solo that we all gotta learn to play the blooz right)

    Grant Green
    Wes Montgomery
    Jim Hall
    Billy Bean
    Jimmy Raney

    Joe Cohn
    Andy Brown
    Bobby Broom
    Peter Bernstein
    (One day I will get a lesson from each of those modern masters... One day... )

    Special Mention: Barry Galbraith... some people lament not being able to study with Ted Greene (I would have loved to).

    I would have loved to study with Barry Galbraith in person... I have studied with people who studied with Galbraith, but experiencing his stuff first hand... At least we have his books

    10 is 10 too few...

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    Maybe not 10, but

    The jazz guitar Mt Rushmore:

    Wes
    Joe
    Pat
    John McLaughlan (the Teddy Roosevelt choice)

    And then:

    Lee Ritenour’s Stolen Moments is one of my favourite jazz guitar recordings but I wouldn’t put Lee on a list of jazz guitarists.

    I liked what I heard of Mark Whitfield and Peter Leitch. Ulf Wakenius.

    I tried hard to like Jim Hall but I failed. Similarly Kenny Burrell and Grant Green.

  39. #88

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    I’m a little all over the place with this, with a little modern and a little old school, but what the heck. In alphabetical order, my personal ten favorites:

    Kenny Burrell
    Larry Carlton
    Grant Geissman
    Grant Green
    John McLaughlin
    Pat Metheny
    Wes Montgomery
    Joe Pass
    Django Reinhardt
    John Scofield

    Painfully, in order to keep it to ten, I had to leave off some of my other favorites including Charlie Christian, Herb Ellis, Alan Holdsworth, Barney Kessel, Bucky Pizzarelli, John Pizzarelli, and Lee Rintenour.

  40. #89

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcwhy
    I like the Top 20 idea - 10 was tough!
    Now I need to add to my original list:
    - John Abercrombie
    - Wolfgang Muthspiel
    - John Moulder
    - Mike Moreno

    and still probably more as I keep thinking about them!
    John Moulder was one of the priests at the Catholic Church I attended growing up. I had absolutely no clue he was a monster guitar player until years later.

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    How does one have Emily Remler on a list without Wes. She attempted to be a Wes clone for how many years?

    Add me to the list of individuals who detest lists.

  42. #91

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    Quote Originally Posted by drbhrb
    Ah, different tastes. I'm much more put off by his early Next Step, Deep Song etc tones.
    Interesting. His tone on The Next Step where he was playing through his old Polytone was just about perfect to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2bornot2bop
    How does one have Emily Remler on a list without Wes. She attempted to be a Wes clone for how many years?

    Add me to the list of individuals who detest lists.
    What are your top ten most detested listing?

  44. #93

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    My top 10 list of JGO players:
    1. Marinero
    2. Marinero
    3. Marinero
    4. Marinero
    5. Marinero
    6. Marinero
    7. Marinero
    8. Marinero
    9. Marinero
    10. 3 guesses....

  45. #94

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    I’m sure we’ve all seen this happen, but, one morning, at a big band rehearsal, the conductor was trying to explain something to the guitarist. I should add that the conductor knew next to nothing about playing guitar.

    In frustration, the conductor tried a different approach.

    “Who is your favourite guitarist?”he asked the guitarist.

    ”Jeremy Brown,” the guitarist answered.

    The conductor was confused. He’d never heard of Jeremy Brown. “Who is Jeremy Brown?” he asked.

    ”I am,” came the reply.

  46. #95

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    in no particular order

    Herb Ellis (although only listen to him w/ Oscar Peterson)
    Pat Metheny
    John Scofield
    Sonny Sharrock
    Allan Holdsworth
    Baden Powell
    Martin Taylor
    Bill Frisell
    John McLaughlin
    Pat Martino

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMgolf66
    My top 10 list of JGO players:
    1. Marinero
    2. Marinero
    3. Marinero
    4. Marinero
    5. Marinero
    6. Marinero
    7. Marinero
    8. Marinero
    9. Marinero
    10. 3 guesses....
    Ok, I'd like to see your list in 10 years. It has no soul like the old lists used to have.

  48. #97

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    Top ten reactions to these lists.


    1. Why are you always right?
    2. I hate lists.
    3. You just copied my list.
    4. Are we still in the fifties?
    5. Oh, them.
    6. How could you possibly?
    7. Let's not go there.
    8. Who here has the worst taste?
    9. Oh no, not him again.
    10. Let's talk about real estate.

  49. #98

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    It's getting kindergarten ... I'm disappearing.

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    no wes mr b in the whole top ten?
    Last edited by Groyniad; 04-12-2021 at 06:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Groyniad
    no wes mr b in the whole top ten?
    dont listen much to Wes, just a list of who I listen to the most, not trying the 10 greatest - otherwise where is Charlie Christian and Django on everyone's list?