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    ...that would be just fine with me.

    Do you have any favorite jazz guitar albums without drums?



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    explore the great jimmy giuffre trios...jimmy with jim hall and a bassist or valve trombone man bob brookmeyer...also giuffres later long time trio with paul bley on piano and steve swallow on bass

    trav'lin light




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    How can you live without the holy grail of cymbals .. Behold in all it's beauty!!!


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    But more seriously ... There are always the classic drummerless albums


    Hall and Evans "Undercurrent"



    "The Swinging Guitar of Tal Farlow"



    And then there is the more modern "Hall Metheny" record


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    It’s like you’re slowly and gently hammering a beautiful brass nail into my forehead...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lobomov
    How can you live without the holy grail of cymbals .. Behold in all it's beauty!!!


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    the fantastic trio of chet baker. doug raney and nhop...all rip!

    the blue room



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    Oh just remembered now that you mention NHØP .. Jeff's first jgbe jam thread with Whisper not made me look for recorded vesions of the tune and this one is absolutely stellar imo


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    Jim Hall and Ron Carter- Alone Together
    Ed Bickert Rob McConnel and Neil Swainson- Trio Sketches
    All the Jimmy Giuffre albums with Jim Hall
    Alabama Concerto feat. Barry Galbraith- over 40 minute piece with no drums!
    Howard Alden and Kenny Peplowsky- Encore!
    Joe Puma- Shining Hour
    Ed Bickert, Rob McConnell, Don Thompson- Three For the Road
    Ed Bickert, Don Thompson
    Lennie Breau Dave Young Live at Bourbon St.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobomov
    Oh just remembered now that you mention NHØP .. Jeff's first jgbe jam thread with Whisper not made me look for recorded vesions of the tune and this one is absolutely stellar imo

    No guitar- disqualified!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Harry Leahey - Silver Threads

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    George Van Eps, My Guitar

    If I recall, the drummer played brushes on a catalog (magazine style). Brushes, no drums. The liner notes named the catalog, which I thought was wry humor. It said that it gave him "the drier sound he wanted".

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    Kenny Burrell - A La Carte (with Rufus Reid). Nice duo album, I can’t find any clips online though.

    A la Carte (Kenny Burrell album) - Wikipedia


    edit: I think this was originally one of the tracks from the album:


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    Ha, I know what you mean about drummers. When I'm recording my own material, I usually forbid the drummer to use his ride cymbal. I mean, sometimes it's nice to hear the air between the notes. Amazingly, I've never had a drummer get upset about my request.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neatomic
    the fantastic trio of chet baker. doug raney and nhop...all rip!
    "It takes a pretty good drummer to be better than no drummer." -- Chet Baker

    I'm partial to Abercrombie & Towner's "Sargasso Sea." It's pay-blocked on YouTube but here's a fine stand-in:

    Last edited by Sam Sherry; 01-31-2021 at 09:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Sherry
    "It takes a pretty good drummer to be better than no drummer." -- Chet Baker
    but nothin beats playin with a great drummer!

    cheers

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    Listen to Paul Motian or Joey Barron. They will cure your drum problems.







    Now if we can just get more drummers to listen to them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by neatomic
    but nothin beats playin with a great drummer!
    Yes. I'm lucky to play in a seventeen-piece band with a drummer who is just a great fit . . . really a great musician.

    There's no feeling like a big-band with a musical, ass-kicking drummer. And in this time of CoViD I sure do miss it.
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    Don't forget the great Oscar Peterson Trios that featured guitar instead of drums.

    OP, Ray Brown, and Barney Kessel, or Herb Ellis, or Joe Pass.

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    I love Abercrombie’s little electric mandolin.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Sherry
    "It takes a pretty good drummer to be better than no drummer." -- Chet Baker

    I'm partial to Abercrombie & Towner's "Sargasso Sea." It's pay-blocked on YouTube but here's a fine stand-in:


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    Quote Originally Posted by sgcim
    Harry Leahey - Silver Threads
    I bought that for .99 in a cutout bin. My friend the late Howard Krive studied w Harry and bought that Koontz he's playing on the cover from him. rip Howard

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    I often feel that way about saxophone. In my opinion the most overexposed instrument in jazz and, with the exception of Paul Desmond, most are unable to play concisely.

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    i feel the same way about jazzguitar

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    +1 for almost all the above albums,especially the Jim Hall/Bill Evans (& Hall's duets with Ron Carter)

    that said Jimmy Cobb's ride cymbal on 'So What' still kills me - he thought at the time he'd over hit it.

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    As we know from Clockwork Orange, sometimes the only cure for a problem is overexposure.


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    Darn, Sam beat me to the Chet Baker quote!!!!

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    Sometimes I want to listen to only ride cymbal

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    here's the 2nd most famous cymbal in jazz. the most famous one of course is the one papa jo jones threw at bird...


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    How do you feel about hi-hats?


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    Good we've turned to drums, I love jazz drums.


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    So now a thread about drummers, I guess it always was...

    Is this my favorite drummer? Could be


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    White noise.

    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Jeff
    How do you feel about hi-hats?


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    Quote Originally Posted by fep
    So now a thread about drummers, I guess it always was...

    Is this my favorite drummer? Could be

    I've never seen such a complete and utter corruption of a thread in all my years online! The poor OP asks for drummerless guitar records, and youse guys are just posting drummer videos!

    I played a bunch of gigs with an excellent drummer who was Richie Cole's drummer, and said he was a protege of Sonny Igoe.
    He mentioned Sonny had a son who played too, and I guess this is him. Total monster!

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    Back when drum kits were real drum kits, no ride cymbals here m8


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    Quote Originally Posted by christianm77
    Back when drum kits were real drum kits, no ride cymbals here m8


    Good thing that apart from adding the ride cymbal we also removed any and all drum sounds that might give a sense of propulsion .. Can't have that can we .. Thank God that all drums are cranked to the max and preferably small, so they go click-ety-plop and not bang-ba-da-boom

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    I’m afraid you’re outnumbered Max.

    Even A/C’s are getting into the act...


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    I have no doubt I’m outnumbered; fortunately the videos posted here don’t autoplay, so I haven’t had to hear any of the drum stuff.

    Back in the ‘90s, I got a call from a local jazz drummer I only knew by name - he had got my number from a mutual colleague. He asked me to play a trio gig with him along with an acoustic bassist. He told me it was a small venue (a golf course clubhouse) and asked me to bring a small amp. We would play whatever standards I knew.

    I arrived at the gig about an hour out, and was mildly curious that the drummer was not there yet - you know usually they have the most stuff to set up. So I asked where the band should set up and plugged in my little amp, careful to leave room for the drum set and acoustic bass.

    The leader showed up, carrying a snare drum in a gig bag, a snare stand and a stick bag. After exchanging greetings, I asked him if I could help him bring his gear in. He smiled and said no thanks, grabbed a regular chair from the floor, set up his snare stand, pulled out a wooden Ludwig snare drum, a set of brushes, and then started chatting about tunes we might do. At some point I realized he was ready to go - no bass drum, no cymbals, no toms.

    We played three sets of standards; The guy was swinging, tasteful and interactive with just the drum (he played with the snares off a lot of the time) and the brushes. It was one of the most enjoyable jazz gigs I had ever played, we all had a great time and it went over well with the crowd.

    I played with that guy every chance I could get. In other contexts - jazz clubs, outdoor gigs - of course he used a full set, but for that small clubhouse the guitar, acoustic bass, snare drum combo was just perfect.

    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Jeff
    I’m afraid you’re outnumbered Max.

    Even A/C’s are getting into the act...

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    Sassy - no cymbals.

    Joe Pass sits this one out too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BickertRules
    I have no doubt I’m outnumbered; fortunately the videos posted here don’t autoplay, so I haven’t had to hear any of the drum stuff.

    Back in the ‘90s, I got a call from a local jazz drummer I only knew by name - he had got my number from a mutual colleague. He asked me to play a trio gig with him along with an acoustic bassist. He told me it was a small venue (a golf course clubhouse) and asked me to bring a small amp. We would play whatever standards I knew.

    I arrived at the gig about an hour out, and was mildly curious that the drummer was not there yet - you know usually they have the most stuff to set up. So I asked where the band should set up and plugged in my little amp, careful to leave room for the drum set and acoustic bass.

    The leader showed up, carrying a snare drum in a gig bag, a snare stand and a stick bag. After exchanging greetings, I asked him if I could help him bring his gear in. He smiled and said no thanks, grabbed a regular chair from the floor, set up his snare stand, pulled out a wooden Ludwig snare drum, a set of brushes, and then started chatting about tunes we might do. At some point I realized he was ready to go - no bass drum, no cymbals, no toms.

    We played three sets of standards; The guy was swinging, tasteful and interactive with just the drum (he played with the snares off a lot of the time) and the brushes. It was one of the most enjoyable jazz gigs I had ever played, we all had a great time and it went over well with the crowd.

    I played with that guy every chance I could get. In other contexts - jazz clubs, outdoor gigs - of course he used a full set, but for that small clubhouse the guitar, acoustic bass, snare drum combo was just perfect.
    Our group's drummer has a Tamla cocktail drum kit--can carry everything in a single bag. There is a cymbal and high hat which he rarely uses. He plays with bundle sticks usually. He sets up right behind me, in fact in our usual venue so close that I have to be careful not to hit the cymbal with my head when I get up. He plays so understated that I almost don't hear him above the usual bar noise. That's my kind of drummer, not someone who thinks he is Keith Moon reincarnated.

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    Is this the wrong time (or thread) to say I don’t really enjoy much singing in general (with exceptions) and especially jazz singing in particular (with almost no exceptions)?

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    Sassy - no cymbals.

    Joe Pass sits this one out too.