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  1. #51

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    Quote Originally Posted by djg
    some of my bookmarks for GB inspired players: ....
    Errol Earl. He da man!

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    The Jazz Guitar Chord Dictionary
     
  3. #52

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    Peter Farrell is a friend of mine and he's a close friend of George Benson. Peter has studied with benson for years and benson approached him as the best person to put forth his methodology. How about, instead of tearing him down we support a brother who is out there doing it, trying to make a living playing the music we love ?

    Here's some great music with peter and adam rogers. He's a brilliant player and teacher. Benson wouldn't have partnered with him otherwise.


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    Jack, I don't see many - if any - comments "tearing him down". He's clearly a first-class player, without question, but it must be said that few people here know of him as a player, and his books - pdfs - are way beyond the expense of any other "brother who is out there doing it". Therefore many view it as a bit of a gamble to spend hard-earned cash on someone they haven't learned to trust. Certainly, I made no disparaging remarks, and now I've heard this video there is no doubt in mind that he is a top player. I'd be very interested in buying the books if they were even half the price, and I think that's the thrust of what most people are saying - that he would sell a lot more copies and probably make as much if not more money from them as he might now be getting.

    Actually, I was waiting for you to chime in here, as you have said good words about him before. I wish him well. As I said earlier, they might well be worth it if Benson is your man, and you lock yourself in the woodshed with just these books.

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    Perry Hughes is a first class player in his own right, but he’s been playing like George since the early 70’s. Glad you mentioned him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazzstdnt
    I seem to recall Benson saying something contrary about his association wth the blues. Someting about that not being where his musical heart was. So, with him it has been more about Soul, R&B, and Jazz? Or maybe I'm mis-remembering.
    In the Facebook lessons Peter Farrell talks about this and says that Benson didnt like so much to play «the blues» per se, but wanted to play more «bluesy» if that makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bambus123
    In the Facebook lessons Peter Farrell talks about this and says that Benson didnt like so much to play «the blues» per se, but wanted to play more «bluesy» if that makes sense.
    yes, expression vs. form

  8. #57
    Benson sounds as great using his thumb as with a pick. Why? Because he plays who he is.


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    Quote Originally Posted by paul.trapanese
    Benson sounds as great using his thumb as with a pick. Why? Because he plays who he is.


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    He does?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazzstdnt
    He does?
    I think so. It’s his feel. Always was. He’s a happy player. Some guys are heady, some somber, he’s happy!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabor
    I thought George Benson is in charge to know and teach “The George Benson Method”, especially for $1000...
    OK I saw the picture, they know each other. So what?
    I believe book 6 is the one with the magic decoder ring and/ or secret sauce to play So What (and other modal tunes) like George Benson...

    And I notice there's a lot of stuff from the contents page that I don't think I've seen anywhere else; but it's a bit expensive for such a short book. Maybe I would think differently if I had actually learnt all of the stuff in the preceding books since stuff listed in the contents pages is mostly familiar from the contents pages of other jazz guitar books although I haven't actually learnt it... Having said that I may cave in and buy one of the individual chapters or one of the combos...

    Could somebody based in the US post what the prices are in US dollars? I'm wondering if they got the US dollars/ pounds Stirling exchange rate backwards. Some tech on the website does an i18n thing and detects which country you're in and quotes the prices in what it thinks are the currency you use. So you can't opt to pay in US dollars if you are located in the UK when accessing the website. (And I've tried using a proxy...)

    By the way, in contradiction to what somebody posted, this is not a one time availability of the books - it's a supposedly "sneak preview" for one week (I'm not sure why that's a thing) and the books will be "officially released" some time next year (albeit at a completely unknown date). When I asked on Facebook, Peter Farrell said that the prices will be the same when the books re-appear next year,

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    Quote Originally Posted by jzucker
    Peter Farrell is a friend of mine and he's a close friend of George Benson. Peter has studied with benson for years and benson approached him as the best person to put forth his methodology. How about, instead of tearing him down we support a brother who is out there doing it, trying to make a living playing the music we love ?
    I certainly haven't torn him down. A friend of mine from here took Skype lessons with Peter and raved about them. I have no doubt of his ability. None.

    But the prices for this material strike many of us as unusually high. (Esp as they are just pdfs, no audio files.) That's not a critique of Peter's playing or teaching or his person.

    Frankly, I can't afford to support him in this endavor right now. (And I've been looking forward to this for a few years now, since I first started hearing about the George Benson Institute.)

    I wish Peter all the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul.trapanese
    Benson sounds as great using his thumb as with a pick. Why? Because he plays who he is.


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    Hopefully, Peter Farrell managed to get that trick - "playing who you are" - into his nine volume series. Nixon or somebody said "The secret of success is sincerity. Once you can fake that you've got it made". (Actually, according to various sources it was somebody called Jean Giraudoux),

    William

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    Quote Originally Posted by WVNicholson
    Hopefully, Peter Farrell managed to get that trick - "playing who you are" - into his nine volume series. Nixon or somebody said "The secret of success is sincerity. Once you can fake that you've got it made". (Actually, according to various sources it was somebody called Jean Giraudoux),

    William
    Ha! Faking sincerity! That’s great! I like it!
    But seriously, I’m all into drawing from players technique and ideas to add to my scope as a player, but the great players are great because they sound like themselves. And the weird quirks like picking technique are something they stumbled on in the process. It wasn’t deliberate. Metheny, Benson, Martino, Wes etc ...
    All off the norm for picking.


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    What's the point---even for a beginning to intermediate player? George Benson himself plays by ear, not 'method', and you're getting something second-hand.

    Use your faves only as an initial step to 'speaking' in your own voice or face a barren artistic landscape...

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    Looking at the prices of different chapters sold separately, we can say that some are worth more , that means that those ones are also real important in terms of knowledge I think.

    nobody tear down Peter, he's an awesome player, I was in one of his facebook group and I learned a lot of things through his videos, I think the price are expensive yes, especially for only pdf ( had it been with some videos with some explanations , that would be different ,this is 2019, almost 2020, now we are so used to have audio or video that goes with music books).

    but I'm really curious about the content because what he showed in his videos is deep and the guys knows what he talks about.
    who, knows, might get one and one chapter ( related to the videos I got from facebook).

    but I still think it's expensive.

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    Okay, so I just attempted to buy the chapter on picking from volume 3; but at the end of the purchasing process I got a bunch of errors about the billing address being missing when there was no space on the form to enter the billing address. This also happened with me logged into an account (with my billing address and other details) that I created on the website when I re-attempted to make the same purchase. I have to say this stuff just works on many websites that look a lot less polished,

    William

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    Quote Originally Posted by WVNicholson
    Okay, so I just attempted to buy the chapter on picking from volume 3; but at the end of the purchasing process I got a bunch of errors about the billing address being missing when there was no space on the form to enter the billing address. This also happened with me logged into an account (with my billing address and other details) that I created on the website when I re-attempted to make the same purchase. I have to say this stuff just works on many websites that look a lot less polished,

    William
    I just thought I should mention that I was unable to get it to work with 3 different web browsers on my Mac; but I was eventually able to get it to work by using the web browser Google Chrome running in Windows on a virtual machine on the Mac. So the website may not be particularly Mac friendly,

    William

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    Sigh. It's all a bit sad. Many had high hopes for this project.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WVNicholson
    I just thought I should mention that I was unable to get it to work with 3 different web browsers on my Mac; but I was eventually able to get it to work by using the web browser Google Chrome running in Windows on a virtual machine on the Mac. So the website may not be particularly Mac friendly,

    William
    wow really?

    that's too bad...
    I'm sure the the content is top notch.
    I'm just not so sure about the 8 books in stock though when it's ebooks ( I know it's marketing strategy for making it urgent before it's gone).

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    today there is a vast array of teaching/learning material for musicians..and other art forms..the net is packed with vids of every type of guitar styles on all levels..beginner to advanced..some with very good teachers and some with top players..I'm sure some of us on this forum remember when Micky Baker books were the only show in town for jazz guitar..

    at some point I realized "hey I can play.." and over the years I have assimulated licks for many top players..Benson being one..a couple of his signature octave riffs and chord runs..and thats all I want to know about his style..same for many others..I have a few Albert King licks and some Steely Dan guitar things..and lots from random sources and of course my own

    I have a stack of books and printed material that are for reference these days..and my daily practice is a review of basic to advanced stuff..today it was triads in whole..half..and minor third steps..and trying to make it musical..

    On this forum there are some very talented players...some that could (and have) write their own book..and many have the ability to do so..what I am saying is I feel many of us know far more than we may realize..and we are teachers as well as students...and I have learned from you guys..music and beyond...so this being a thankful season...I say thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dioxic
    Peter is a good guy, great teacher, and provides great content.. but the price of these books is kind of outrageous in my opinion. They start at £80 and go up to £206... when all is said and done you’re going to spend well over $1,000 USD when purchasing all the volumes..

    Any thoughts on this?
    For that sort of price, I would want some variation in the cover photographs. Besides, I don’t like Farrell's hand on Benson’s shoulder – it looks as if Farrell has some power over Benson. And the sleeves of Farrell’s jacket are too long. I will add it to my growing collection of awkward music-book covers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WVNicholson
    I just thought I should mention that I was unable to get it to work with 3 different web browsers on my Mac; but I was eventually able to get it to work by using the web browser Google Chrome running in Windows on a virtual machine on the Mac. So the website may not be particularly Mac friendly,

    William
    The chapter about picking looks reasonably interesting. It's a bit early to give it a proper review as I have a lot of stuff to work on at the moment (including working through a book about picking by Desi Serna which looks like it will be my main practice resource on the topic - supplemented by the more expensive George Benson method book chapter I just bought and Troy Grady materials and maybe this other guy Chris Brooks, although his stuff is a bit Yngwie focussed...). There were some extra pages that I hadn't expected that were interesting - about George Benson and Peter Farrell and also two other guys - Bill Moio and Filipe Faria - who were on the project (not sure in what capacity - co-authors and/ or editors) although not credited on the books' covers. (That sounds bad; but some of the big music book publishers like Hal Leonard never credit the authors on the cover, at least in particular book series, particularly if the author is somebody else writing content about a particular performer),

    William

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    Quote Originally Posted by WVNicholson
    The chapter about picking looks reasonably interesting. It's a bit early to give it a proper review as I have a lot of stuff to work on at the moment (including working through a book about picking by Desi Serna which looks like it will be my main practice resource on the topic - supplemented by the more expensive George Benson method book chapter I just bought and Troy Grady materials and maybe this other guy Chris Brooks, although his stuff is a bit Yngwie focussed...). There were some extra pages that I hadn't expected that were interesting - about George Benson and Peter Farrell and also two other guys - Bill Moio and Filipe Faria - who were on the project (not sure in what capacity - co-authors and/ or editors) although not credited on the books' covers. (That sounds bad; but some of the big music book publishers like Hal Leonard never credit the authors on the cover, at least in particular book series, particularly if the author is somebody else writing content about a particular performer),

    William
    not really interested by the book cover, to me it's about what is inside of it.

    thanks William for the small review!

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    Some quick thoughts for those that’re considering purchasing a book (or more) after they release.

    Definitely some great content, but there’s a decent amount of fingering errors / picking notation errors. I’ve found four so far... for the price...

    Additionally, the PDFs are restricted, so you can’t print them. If you’re a computer whizz, you can find a way to get around this, but again for the price... I’d expect to be able to do whatever I want with the material. If I payed for it, it’s my book after all.

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    As some of you know I've been Peter's student for 2 years now and I have little bit different angle to view these books than other people.
    Since I know what is Peter's teaching about and what are his capabilities I can only say that I had enormously high expectations for these books. Especially if we consider the price tag. So, I decided to buy 2 Complementary books about the rhythm. I already had lessons with Peter about all other topics. When I downloaded the books and opened them they reminded me somewhat on Factorial rhythm books from Mick Goodrick. But, right after reading trough first couple of pages I could how magical these books are. I've spent 10 days so far with them and now I can freely say that these books are missing link in jazz pedagogy that opens secrets of internalization of rhythm and phrasing into yourself and your playing. So, what is it all about in the two books:
    First, Peter and George shows you the correct syllables for each note groupings (whole, half, eight, sexxteen, tuplets etc).
    Than they give you rhytmical excercises with those note groupings, first one by one than mixed. There are also rhytmic displacement exercises with a very intuitive approach. Oh, man.
    So far, simple right. But, the magic begins when you realise that those syllables and thise rhythms are carefully choosen by Peter and George. And man, do they sound exciting.
    Excercises should be practiced without instrument (altough you can surely use your instrument too) in various ways explained by these two gentelmans. And there lives another layer of magic. Practicing these excercises with metronome is one of the obvious ways. Magic starts when you practice them along your favourite songs. This way you immediately engrain the phrasing of your favourite players since you follow their playing but trough your excercise. After 10 days with these excercises I can see myself in very near future making very simple pentatonic into some incredibly phrased lines beyond my previous comprehension.
    For me, these two books are the best books I ever encountered in jazz education. Absolute gold.
    Forth the price, oh yeah. These informations are priceless.
    Another thing about the price. Since I know what is Peter's teaching about I also know what to expect from the books. I've transcribed gazillion lines from his lessons, but having them already transcribed it would ease my practice enormously. And altough they are priced extremely high I actually can only say that content they offer is totally priceless. Call me crazy, but I would rather buy these books than new guitar.
    George Benson is a player that is one of the biggest name in jazz. I think that people still don't realize how big and unique his approach is. How deep is his harmonic knowlege, how fast he connects things, how incredibly he phrases every sentence hes playing etc. There is a ton of things I could write about this that Peter showed me and I still could not touch 1% of what Peter knows. And here is where Peter's role shines. He managed to put this enormous knowledge into a method books that translate so well to average player. Also, it should be mentioned that some amazing cats, that I can't name, took skype lessons with Peter.
    Later, I will write about my understanding of the approach/method they came with. Bear with me, if you will...

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    Thanks for this review ! Can’t wait to read your following review !

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    Quote Originally Posted by icheme
    Thanks for this review ! Can’t wait to read your following review !
    Fyi, I've started a thread on this here George Benson method, Peter Farrell

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkRhodes
    I wish "Patterns for Jazz" were spiral bound.
    (The copy I bought nearly 40 years ago is.... are the new ones not sold that way?)
    _____

    I have the first 3 months of videos from Peter's Facebook group, and had to bow out to catch up, but he truly has been able to define so much of what Benson is all about, and I'm not that far into it. I will pick up at least the first book when they are released, and it is probably priced lower than the rest as a "loss leader" I imagine, to get people on board.

    I get the arguments about price, but on the other hand, it's his time and he really is a brilliant player, so he should charge what he wants. It's always good to throw a few things out for free, and I believe he is doing that with the videos on his FB page, probably to establish his credibility. I think books can be an incredible bargain, but consider that a one hour lesson with Bernstein, Metheny, Hall, any of the greats would probably be a bargain at $100. If the books truly deliver, then the cost for the experience and shortcuts could easily be worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yebdox
    (The copy [of Patterns For Jazz] I bought nearly 40 years ago is [spiral bound].... are the new ones not sold that way?)
    Mine wasn't. I haven't seen a spiral-bound copy. I would much prefer one.

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    there you go!

    I'm a music education books freak


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    Some are neurotic music book hoarders....


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    Here Peter explains the content of the books and why they have organized them the way they have, and then goes on to show what Benson calls the secret of the two chords, a way to visualize the fretboard alternating between a major chord and the relative minor chord up the neck. Here he shows Cmaj7 (3rd fret) - Am7 (5th fret) - Cmaj7 (8th fret) - Am7 (10th fret) and Am7 (12th fret) and how to use them to connect the fretboard

    He even talks a little about the Benson picking method saying that it is not the right hand that is the most important for Bensons technique, but the combination with the left.

    He also shows some lines and what he calls chord arpeggios which compliments each of the major/minor chords above. This is actually almost the same as he has showed in one of the first paid Facebook lessons that I have been following (for a year now)



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    I went ahead and pulled the trigger on Book 1 (figured start at the beginning) the price is REALLY steep especially given the USD conversion (ouch!) but I guess it is what it is. I'll get working thru this in 2020 and we'll see if it merits further volumes....I'm also going to "try" and declare 2020 the year I buy no other guitar/music instructional books....the library has reached a point where there is no way in my remaining lifetime I'll be able to give them the proper due, that's a good problem I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bambus123
    Here Peter explains the content of the books and why they have organized them the way they have, and then goes on to show what Benson calls the secret of the two chords, a way to visualize the fretboard alternating between a major chord and the relative minor chord up the neck. Here he shows Cmaj7 (3rd fret) - Am7 (5th fret) - Cmaj7 (8th fret) - Am7 (10th fret) and Am7 (12th fret) and how to use them to connect the fretboard

    He even talks a little about the Benson picking method saying that it is not the right hand that is the most important for Bensons technique, but the combination with the left.

    He also shows some lines and what he calls chord arpeggios which compliments each of the major/minor chords above. This is actually almost the same as he has showed in one of the first paid Facebook lessons that I have been following (for a year now)


    I really do not want to cause bad feelings to anyone who knows Peter Farrell, or to Peter personally. I also emphasize I am talking exclusively about this video and not about Peter Farrell's work in general (what I definitely do not know, and just trying to get familiar with, motivated by your recommendation) .. and also supposedly it turns out my posts in the past, that Benson is one of my hero...

    ...but guys, either you are so polite and gentleman, or biased blind (hopefully the first)...
    someone must to say: Is this a parody?

    Peter is soooo unprepared in this video and so incapable to transmit any message, he can not even find the words, has trouble to assemble meaningful sentences, does not even know the numbers of the chapters... Someone must ask: For God's sake he is positioned here as a teacher, who's, most basic responsibility to be prepared, and have the skill to meaningfully explain things, shortest time as the student can invent himself...

    OK, I know this is a sales video (contrary its title) and I have no problem with sales, But again, it is the worst sales I ever seen, the length and unpreparedness and demonstrates a total lack of authenticity and authority.

    Well after 32 minutes literal nothing we start get know the "secret" (still using approx 10x more sentences as necessary) that major and its relative minor can be utilized in similar contexts. Wow! Maybe I am wrong but is not this what we probably discovering at somewhere the beginning of the journey by ourselfs?

    I understand if someone find those words overstatements, again those words are about the quoted video exclusively. The video was posted, someone must talk about it...

  36. #85

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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmic gumbo
    Some are neurotic music book hoarders....

    Pictures of Ted Greene's apartment look much the same. Unlike me, I think he had read them all and worked through them. By comparison my stack of unread instructional material is modest. I feel much better!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikostep
    Try with this video, maybe you'll find it more interesting.

    A post by The George Benson Method on Today
    This is a shame. This is literally the Walt Disney version of jazz and Benson. Throwing random bensonish lines while impersonating Darth Vader? Really? Is this the way to get know the legacy of blues, the essence of soul and the artistry of George Benson? Are we going to teach students, that nothing valuable content matters, just the empty shell? (form I mean)

    Even we completely disregard the Darth Vader thing, it is so shallow, and striped out of soul, what would the quintessence of Benson. Carrying the message, that no real content, feeling and soul matters, it is enough just to fake it, Someone should warn Benson to stop this guy, or else people will start identify Benson associated with this picture.

    I give up on this.

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    I have serious doubt now that you have some extremely bad feelings about Peter himself and his teaching.
    If this is "shallow, stripped out version with random bensonish lines" to you really don't get the point and don't hear one of the most important and most neglected thing in jazz (and music at all). That is connection with the rhythm in a specific way that he demonstrates so well here in this video. It is not tatatata connection, it's much deeper and organic. Can you hear it while he is playing and singing at the same time?
    If this is shallow to you than you are either musical genious (so this is child game for you) or you are totally missing the point.
    I'm really not trying to bash you, I apologise if some if my sentences are rude, but man, wake up. This is pure gold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikostep
    I have serious doubt now that you have some extremely bad feelings about Peter himself and his teaching.
    I do not know neither Peter neither his teaching. I wrote about the videos, and the minimum what anyone can say about those, is "confusing". I really do not want interpret and listen and understand Benson as collection of secret golden tricks, and neither as Darth Vader, this is not the way. And of course I am not comparing Peter playing abilities to myself, please do not go into this.

    You wrote "pure gold", and I agree, analyzing Benson (as analyzing many other great artists) could be pure gold, and all the legacy on the hundreds of recordings are also pure gold.

    I think I made some point, also answered to your thoghts, from now it would be just repeting those, what I really do not want.
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    To be fair to Peter, the written material and facebook broadcasts do have a well thought-out logical progression, and as for dressing up as Darth Vader, well I think that he was just having fun which is why we play in the first place is it not?

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    If we always expect the world (or people) to appear a certain way before we can engage with or learn from it/them, we will be waiting a long time for the opportunity to grow.

    Clearly, Peter’s style of teaching does not motivate Gabor to learn or fit his ideas of proper respect for the art of jazz guitar (if I recall correctly, he also considers the music of Pat Metheny a dead end). Fair enough and to each his own.

    We could leave it at that and allow those of us who have experienced Peter’s lessons to find fulfillment in them without needing to justify our attention or investment. There is no one way and no one method for everyone. I personally appreciate whatever shortcuts are available. Sometimes my investment has yielded poor returns, other times, lesson material has indeed, proven to be “gold”. I’m happy with the return on my investment with Peter. Criticizing him for the way he presents and markets the fruits of his labor is pointless.

    Do your own work and market it it anyway you like. He owes us nothing and it’s clear that the complaining in this thread is only coming from those unwilling to take a chance on investing in Peter’s material, not from those with actual experience.

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    Does anybody have new opinions on or more experience with the material?

    My friend who purchased a book from him said that he was sending out emails saying there will always be a “corona virus in life” and that it shouldn’t stop people from paying for his material... seemed in poor taste to me. Oh and he said a ton of emails over and over again multiple days in a row and sometime several in the same day lol

    Also, for what it’s worth, Icheme hasn’t posted since making a post that sounded like a paid testimonial for the “George Benson Method”... perhaps we were right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dioxic
    Does anybody have new opinions on or more experience with the material?

    My friend who purchased a book from him said that he was sending out emails saying there will always be a “corona virus in life” and that it shouldn’t stop people from paying for his material... seemed in poor taste to me. Oh and he said a ton of emails over and over again multiple days in a row and sometime several in the same day lol

    Also, for what it’s worth, Icheme hasn’t posted since making a post that sounded like a paid testimonial for the “George Benson Method”... perhaps we were right.
    I stand by what i say, and I am not getting paid i repeat. the material is quite complete as far as I have seen so far.
    I got the same emails myself (which I think is annoying).
    but the books are quite complete from what I have seen

    guitar is not where I earn my living, I play bass for a living but I started on guitar and love jazz guitar ( WES, GEORGE and JOE , the holy trinity for me).
    as far as paid review, as I told before, I didn't get paid to say what I said, hell, People are making video testimonies for him , I didn't ( and I don't think people got paid for this)
    I am not Peter representative, I took a stand because I thought his lessons are great.
    but if you want to go more, just go and talk to the man, and please don't imply my name on anything thank you

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    I "broke" recently and bought his volume 6 since it sounded like it has unique material (although somewhat over-priced); but I don't think I can give an honest review one way or the other since I'm a bit too busy with other material (with other teachers that I'm already getting lessons from and books I'm already working on) at the moment to do it justice. It looks like it's a fairly condensed format i.e. there's a lot packed into those pages.

    I got a bunch of those e-mails as well recently - I think I may be on the relevant mailing list due to buying the individual chapter (from a different book) a while ago and possibly due to signing up for Peter Farrell's free "George Benson experience week". Anyway, the coronavirus related paragraph in the relevant e-mail is:

    'About the Actual Situation in the World: There will always be a " corona virus" between you and your dreams. One day is a virus, another day you don't have a job anymore, then next week you got sick and have to spend some money with doctors, and so on.....Life is like that !!! So if you really love this method of teaching do not find excuses in order to don't do it.'

    That may provide a bit more context; but still not really reflect well on Peter Farrell at all. The e-mails were mostly plugging his package of lessons (on "the George Benson community") rather than the books. It's looking like the books periodically being available for a short time rather than being published and available indefinitely really is going to be the pattern in the future (which I think contradicts something I may have said earlier). (It was observed earlier that that might be a sales tactic.) The rationale is that Peter Farrell provides, I think, is that he wants to be able to support people working through the books after they buy them,

    William


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    Does anybody have new opinions on or more experience with the material?

    My friend who purchased a book from him said that he was sending out emails saying there will always be a “corona virus in life” and that it shouldn’t stop people from paying for his material... seemed in poor taste to me. Oh and he said a ton of emails over and over again multiple days in a row and sometime several in the same day lol

    Also, for what it’s worth, Icheme hasn’t posted since making a post that sounded like a paid testimonial for the “George Benson Method”... perhaps we were right.

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    It appears the books broadly speaking use a downward pickslanting approach with some ascending sweeps but no ascending sweeps (and also a strategy with how the left hand and right hand are coordinated in order to facilitate picking). So I was wondering if the reader had expected strict alternate picking, for example, or if they had found some inconsistency with the stated rules for picking. I haven't properly gone through my volume 6 yet so I was wondering if I could expect to find any errors or anything else that should have been caught by proofreading when I do,

    William

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    Hi William,

    I have volume 6. I am an economy picker so I find different fingerings for large portions of the lines in order to fit what I know (technically). I haven't yet found any musical examples that have mistakes.

    Re: mistakes - I think it's always good to consider the source. The guy who made that accusation also made other false claims and bizzaro assumptions about Peter. Aside from that and more important, can the person who wrote that nonsense even play well, or play at all? I think we know that answer.

    I would open that book up and start HAVING FUN! If you have any questions about anything in that book DM me and I'll try to help.
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    One thing I must add, I see all the free content Peter put , and the suff he puts on youtube as well.

    go see for yourself.

    He breaks down everything so that tells a lot about how good he is and about the quality of his teachings.
    And truth is , he's the only one that broke the Benson code up to that level. and that's a fact ( just listen to the guy and Benson himself tells it).

    think whatever you want, I know what I think.

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