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    I've been listening to Adrian Belew a lot these days. His works with Fripp during the King Crimson group really defy genre labels in the ways that some of the most adventurous players in "jazz" also do. As rock music has gone beyond its R&B roots, created something not limited by genre and audience expectation, jazz has been redefining boundries in the same way.
    Robert Fripp's music may not have the same genre specific swing sense that jazz has, but his roles as composer and brilliant band leader is very much in the spirit of where a lot of improvisational music is going.
    I like seeing discussions of musicians in non-jazz traditions like Bowie, Zappa, late era Miles... who are using the talents of great jazz and exploratory musicians to make music that redefines what can be done. It was great to see Bowie work with Ben Monder, Zappa working with Archie Shepp, Fripp working with Adrian Belew. I've long wondered what a collaboration with Bill Frisell would wind up being.

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    Fripp is my hero. His playing is knotty and inspired. He has always been his own person. He made Bowie even better. (No disrespect to Ronson or Gabrels.)

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    Robert Fripp is a musician/composer who happens to play guitar, so I hope we can talk about him here!

    Early Crimson (especially their live work!) was 1970's heavy-metal jazz, with some nice "songs" thrown in for good measure!
    I saw the 80's lineup a few times, and they blew us away!
    Never explored Fripp's alternate tunings or anything, but I dig him as a player and composer.

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    fripp @ 21 years old



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    Quote Originally Posted by marcwhy View Post
    Robert Fripp is a musician/composer who happens to play guitar, so I hope we can talk about him here!

    Early Crimson (especially their live work!) was 1970's heavy-metal jazz, with some nice "songs" thrown in for good measure!
    I saw the 80's lineup a few times, and they blew us away!
    Never explored Fripp's alternate tunings or anything, but I dig him as a player and composer.
    I remember seeing them (80's era KC) in college and people were trying to dance to non-4/4 songs. They would hop at the extra beats. It was awesome.

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    I always liked the Andy Summers album "I Advance Masked."



    I enjoy "The League" as well. Kinda scary and cult like, but I don't know of anything remotely similar. That many guitars playing together would be mush under any other concept. I like the comment of giving them a sitting Ovation. Also, for the entire last segment the guy front left doesn't play or move at all. There has to be some tongue and cheek in that.

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    The League of Gentlemen, Fripp's new wave band:


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    saw fripp perform his solo soundscapes in the shadows of the world trade center a few times shortly before 9/11...he played the world financial centre! (on a few occasions)...strange yet ethereal...his mother had recently passed before one performance..and it had great moving impact...

    only intensified in retrospect



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    Fripp makes Johnny Mac sound like the guy next door!

    Fripp's early stuff (Giles, Giles and Fripp) showed he had a strong jazz background. On "Digging My Lawn", he had some Wes-type stuff going on, and that "Suite in D" neatomic posted showed he had phenomenal technique.
    On the first KC LP he played the schist out of the ensemble passages on 21st CSM, and rolled off the tone control on his LP or Tele on a lot of the other tunes to get an almost flute-like sound on his lines.
    The first KC band were heavily into free jazz on "Moonchild" and he and McDonald used to go nuts on the few live things I've heard of the band.

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    Rodney was a sad young man because he was fat and ugly......

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    Quote Originally Posted by TruthHertz View Post
    I've been listening to Adrian Belew a lot these days. His works with Fripp during the King Crimson group really defy genre labels in the ways that some of the most adventurous players in "jazz" also do. As rock music has gone beyond its R&B roots, created something not limited by genre and audience expectation, jazz has been redefining boundries in the same way.
    Robert Fripp's music may not have the same genre specific swing sense that jazz has, but his roles as composer and brilliant band leader is very much in the spirit of where a lot of improvisational music is going.
    I like seeing discussions of musicians in non-jazz traditions like Bowie, Zappa, late era Miles... who are using the talents of great jazz and exploratory musicians to make music that redefines what can be done. It was great to see Bowie work with Ben Monder, Zappa working with Archie Shepp, Fripp working with Adrian Belew. I've long wondered what a collaboration with Bill Frisell would wind up being.

    David
    Wow, Fripp and Frisell sounds like an amazing combination!

    However, I’m impressed by Fripp’s work on Peter Gabriel’s ”Solsbury Hill” from 1977.

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    Thanks Eric—2 of my favorite musicians. Makes me appreciate them even more. A very insightful interview to say the least.

    I actually saw both of these great guitarists about the time that interview occurred...1981-2. Fripp played with the rebooted King Crimson, and McLaughlin was in his Belo Horizonte phase—the lovely Katia Labeque on keyboards. For Crimson we were dancing just below the stage, about 20 feet away. For McLaughlin my GF and I had a table also about 20 feet away. Both were magical experiences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bbmaj7#5#9 View Post
    Wow, Fripp and Frisell sounds like an amazing combination!

    However, I’m impressed by Fripp’s work on Peter Gabriel’s ”Solsbury Hill” from 1977.
    While Fripp did play some amazing work on the PG1 album—Here Comes the Flood for instance—he did not play on that track. That was the superb guitarist Steve Hunter—best known for his playing on the Lou Reed Live Animal album.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Jeff View Post
    Thanks Eric—2 of my favorite musicians. Makes me appreciate them even more. A very insightful interview to say the least.

    McLaughlin: Can I get you more coffee?

    Fripp: I should love more coffee. Where do these chocolates come from?

    McLaughlin: They come from the Basque coast, where we go a lot of the time. Maybe one day you can come and visit.


    This is a long way from Spinal Tap.

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    I learned this song by ear because there was no sheet music, and I loved it. I play it all the time. I’m not the only one. There’s no reason why this song shouldn’t be a standard .



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    Wow, thanks for that link - never read that interview before. I love it when accomplished musicians discuss their craft with other accomplished musicians, especially when they are as articulate as McLaughlin & Fripp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Jeff View Post
    While Fripp did play some amazing work on the PG1 album—Here Comes the Flood for instance—he did not play on that track. That was the superb guitarist Steve Hunter—best known for his playing on the Lou Reed Live Animal album.
    Aha, now I learned something new. Thank you!