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With the recent thread on swinging, I was wanting to hear some examples of Jazz Guitarists who swing hard. I think I know a few (Early Pat Martino on "East"). Can you name a few and give some examples for me to hear.
I always took my knowledge of swinging for granted, but now I want to hear some examples.
Thanks.
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05-12-2017 01:32 PM
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I'd start with Charlie Christian, the Billys (Bean and Bauer) and the immortal Wes.
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Great list. Charlie is the source of so much that followed. And he still sounds great.
Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
Freddie Green swung like nobody's business. His swing is always solid but is never quite metronomic---what he's doing is more subtle and driving than that.
I'd throw in Barney Kessel and Herb Ellis too. Both influenced by Charlie Christian, both had long careers and were recorded in various settings.
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I went back and forth on including freddie...in many ways, he is the rock on which the other members of basie's band swing.
It's not metronomic, but it's close. It's a difference--very slight--in dynamics, tone, and the length of the beat--between 1 and 3 and 2 and 4. It's like Freddie is the root of all that swings, but I'm not sure if I'd recommend a newer player starting there, because rhythm guitar is a whole different beast...
It's like the guys I mentioned are in the pocket, Freddie was the damn pocket.
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Charlie Byrd. He swung harder than any guitarist I've ever heard. Charlie Christian is close behind. The recording of the Swing To Spirituals concert of Oh Lady Be Good is one of the swingingest songs I've ever heard, and Christian takes some great solos on it. It always makes me smile and move. Everything I've ever heard of Charlie Byrd, and I've heard a lot, swings very hard. He swung harder than any of the other members of the Great Guitars, and on anything else he played.
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"He swung harder than any of the other members of the Great Guitars, and on anything else he played."
? wow, I'd suggest the exact opposite
but I never was a Byrd fan.
now Donald Byrd or Jerry Byrd.....
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freddie was the rock solid heartbeat, but still swung..his time was so on, that he could play around with it, & still be in... and swing!!
early jimmy raney swung hard...he was huge into bird and really transfered alot of that kc swing feeling to the guitar
here's his quintet-featuring stan getz
cheers
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Maybe that's why there is so much controversy in the other thread. It seems nobody can agree on what swing is. If you can't hear Charlie Byrd swing, we're talking about different things, ISTM.
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charlie byrd was big into charlie christian...did a homage to cc..
swung nicely, tho i dig charlie byrd most for his more eclectic nylon stuff ie getz n byrd
cheers
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This is killing. Never heard this side of byrd...I've heard the bossa stuff (like it) and the great guitars (boooorrrrring) but this is great. Originally Posted by neatomic
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Here's Herb and Barney doing "Tangerine." Strong swing here.
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Love this.......... Originally Posted by neatomic
Anyone know the name of the tune?
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Lee is the tune.
Jimmy always swung...but the very straight eight's way...like dex. Well. Dex was lazy 8's. Gasp, like bird. Maybe as close as a guitar player ever got.
Raney was just...incredible. if I could listen to only one guitar player...
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here's session info for that great raney date...it was his date...came out first on his jimmy raney plays disc
getz as sven coolson was the guest, tho in later days he got the session top billing on the reissues due to his popularity
Jimmy Raney Quintet
Stan Getz as Sven Coolson (tenor sax) Hall Overton (piano) Jimmy Raney (guitar) Red Mitchell (bass) Frank Isola (drums)NYC, April 23, 1953* Prestige PRLP 7255; Original Jazz Classics OJC-654, OJCCD-654-2 Stan Getz - Early Stan471 Signal Prestige PRLP 156, PRLP 7255 472 Lee - 473 'Round Midnight - 474 Motion -
= Prestige PR 7434 Stan Getz - Jazz Classics
* Prestige PRLP 156 Jimmy Raney Plays
from Jimmy Raney Discography
cheers
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George benson for sure
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So many old school players swung hard, clean, badass chops. Any of these guys on mid to uptempo grooves could kill.
Tal Farlow
Wes
Burrell
Benson
Martino
Pass
Mundell Lowe
Johnny Smith
Howard Roberts
Herb Ellis
Kessel....
...so many more
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also, grant green
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How about the Pizzarelli's?
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I'll add a relatively obscure but IMO wonderful guitarist: Remo Palmieri. The lovely solo on Dizzy's "Groovin High" is by him. And he has lots of solos - many great ones - on a reissued Teddy Wilson "All-Star Sextet" record (the session was in 46 IIRC). He SWINGS, gracefully.
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Yes, it's Lee by Jimmy Raney and dedicated jointly to Lee Konitz and JR's wife, Esterlee. I love all the early Raney tunes - Signal, Motion, Parker 51 (named after the pen, not Bird) - and the incredible playing by both Raney and Getz on those sides. Originally Posted by Philco
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While I like early Raney my favorite recordings of his are The Master, since Jimmy plays bebop songs and Porter tunes, and Raney Live in Tokyo (my favorite standard g\b\d trio recording). Originally Posted by PMB
Jimmy was so lyrical.
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doug raney also did a killer version of (his dads tune) - lee....organ trio setting with joey defrancesco and billy hart..top band
from doug raney - the backbeat
cheers
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Doug always swung. What a loss...cat had a lot of music left in him.
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Jimmy just kept getting better...wish he would have hung around a little longer. He was seriously making some of the best records of his career near the end of his life. Originally Posted by jameslovestal
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IMHO, nobody swings harder than George Barnes.
Below is just one of a "bazillion" examples, when he was playing with Bucky Pizzarelli it was Swing Squared.
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