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    Zombie thread resurrection
    Lenny
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    Lenny stayed with me for a short while when I was living in Vancouver (1973). He was using heavily but respected my home and did not bring his troubles through the front door.

    He was a troubled but gentle soul and even in those days had 'hangers on' on looking for a piece of him.

    Like many of the best guitarists his technique was his own but to me he was the Steve Gadd of the guitar and could play anything, anywhere. He had what I called a photographic ear and though not a 'chartist' could remember a piece note for note after one hearing....quite astonishing.

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    I met Lenny in Santa Barbara where he began showing up regularly for a few months at a time starting in the late '70s. I used to work at a club called Baudelaire's and practiced my Bill Thrasher Jazz lessons there in the daytime when the club was closed. Lenny was very approachable and generous with his time and advice to the legions of guitar players who considered themselves to be his acolytes. His wife sat in the front row and helped him remember the titles of the songs he was playing.

    By the '80s I was back in school and working as a cook at a 'trendy' restaurant on State Street called the Metro Cafe. Lenny played occasional gigs there. After finishing a shift I'd sit in the bar and listen to him play with a small group. Most of the audience treated him like background music to their own adventuring. He seemed to be in good shape and was playing beautifully. He left town soon after that and turned up dead in the pool. What a shame.

    When people gushed over his playing he'd say. "They say I sound like an angel but look like a devil".
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    Not sure if anyone brought up murder as being drug dealer related. Maybe Len couldn't afford his own habit and racked up too many IOUs. Maybe they'd gotten fed up with his large debt and drowned him in the roof pool..By a very very odd coincidence I went with a friend to Pasadena from Los Angeles. He was returning something to someone (can't remember what. Must have been 25 years ago) The girl we'd visited, who looked, in the eyes, allot like Willie Nelson's, wound up telling us she had been Lenny Breau's girlfriend !!! This conversation, of course, was years after Breau's death..But it was so eerie to hear this, out of the blue...Can't remember though, what started this conversation to begin with..! And in Pasadena ....not L.A.....Odd coincidence, huh? !
    P.S. In respect to Lenny, please skip the Willie Nelson jokes.
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    Tragic story. Difficult to know, in some cases , if some people have been denied posthumous justice, due to the complex nature of their personal lives preventing thorough examination into the circumstances of their death. Chet Bakers' is another story that springs to mind.

    On a related note though, sometimes the mysterious circumstances can be quite clearly explained. I came across an interesting comment relating to the death of the tenor saxophonist Wardell Gray, another individual with addiction problems who died in unexplained circumstances. For those who don't know the story, Gray's body was found in the desert on the outskirts of Las Vegas. His neck had been broken. However it seems at least one interviewer has known the truth since the late 80's, as detailed in the footnotes at the end of this solography on page 37.

    http://www.wardellgray.org/pdfdocume...Solography.pdf

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    I think this mystery would be ripe for a Serial or Making a Murderer type documentary.

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    Just read the book "One Long Tune". Two things come to mind with regards to Lenny and his wife.
    First, 'Intimate Partner Violence', men and women have been killing each other for a long, long time. Center for Disease Control (CDC) has been studying it for 10 years now-scary stuff. About 3,000 people are killed each year by husbands, wives, boyfriend and girlfriends. Alcohol and drugs are often involved. Check out their website it's all there.
    Second, Jewel Breau was a Critical Care Nurse (Intensive Care Nurse). That is an individual with access to certain drugs, not available elsewhere. For example, succinylcholine...a drug that is controlled by the USDA (not DEA) therefore wholly unregulated, and there for the stealing. An MD colleague of mine was done in by his wife in just this fashion. Vials of Sux have been rolling around in Intensive Care refrigerators for 50 years-and guess what-the drug is still unregulated and readily available.
    The drug is untraceable and kills by vocal cord paralysis (i.e., suffication). Lenny was likely dead before Jewel went church that morning-remember she needed an alibi. If you recall, Jewel also told cops he Lenny "thought" he was going to die soon, " had thoughts of death" etc-priming the cops and the brain-dead Medical Examiner for "suicide". Once the body is moved to ME's office, you no longer have a murder scene. Very quickly, Medical Examiners find themselves on the losing side of the equation. Think Kurt Cobain, Jon Benet Ramsey, etc, etc.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by srvrip41
    Just read the book "One Long Tune". Two things come to mind with regards to Lenny and his wife.
    First, 'Intimate Partner Violence', men and women have been killing each other for a long, long time. Center for Disease Control (CDC) has been studying it for 10 years now-scary stuff. About 3,000 people are killed each year by husbands, wives, boyfriend and girlfriends. Alcohol and drugs are often involved. Check out their website it's all there.
    Second, Jewel Breau was a Critical Care Nurse (Intensive Care Nurse). That is an individual with access to certain drugs, not available elsewhere. For example, succinylcholine...a drug that is controlled by the USDA (not DEA) therefore wholly unregulated, and there for the stealing. An MD colleague of mine was done in by his wife in just this fashion. Vials of Sux have been rolling around in Intensive Care refrigerators for 50 years-and guess what-the drug is still unregulated and readily available.
    The drug is untraceable and kills by vocal cord paralysis (i.e., suffication). Lenny was likely dead before Jewel went church that morning-remember she needed an alibi. If you recall, Jewel also told cops he Lenny "thought" he was going to die soon, " had thoughts of death" etc-priming the cops and the brain-dead Medical Examiner for "suicide". Once the body is moved to ME's office, you no longer have a murder scene. Very quickly, Medical Examiners find themselves on the losing side of the equation. Think Kurt Cobain, Jon Benet Ramsey, etc, etc.

    Cheers
    Interesting thoughts there, srv. Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pubylakeg
    Tragic story. Difficult to know, in some cases , if some people have been denied posthumous justice, due to the complex nature of their personal lives preventing thorough examination into the circumstances of their death. Chet Bakers' is another story that springs to mind.

    On a related note though, sometimes the mysterious circumstances can be quite clearly explained. I came across an interesting comment relating to the death of the tenor saxophonist Wardell Gray, another individual with addiction problems who died in unexplained circumstances. For those who don't know the story, Gray's body was found in the desert on the outskirts of Las Vegas. His neck had been broken. However it seems at least one interviewer has known the truth since the late 80's, as detailed in the footnotes at the end of this solography on page 37.

    http://www.wardellgray.org/pdfdocume...Solography.pdf
    Thank you. I've always been a big Wardell fan. I never knew the last part. I knew he was found dead in the Las Vegas desert.

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    I'm not a follower of LB conspiracy theories but why did his wife want him dead? Was he just a PITA drug addict and she tired of his shinnanigans or insurance or he double crossed her or she/he was abusive and he threatened to go to the cops or threatened to go on tour with the wrong band? Sorry but I think the answers are somewhere up the thread. I've read most of this thread long ago but I don't have the patience at the moment. But I AM interested!

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    Let me just start by saying thank you so much for your comment. It really means a lot to my mother and I. I am Lenny and Jewel Breau's Daughter.

    I agree one hundred percent with you, and I'm glad someone who actually knew my parents, has the guts to tell the truth and how it really was. For that i am grateful. I would love to touch base with you and possibly collaborate on some music here in the near future. As I am working on some various music projects personally as well as trying to clean up this mess of unrightfully released music, albums, books etc of my parents.

    Also working on my own documentary and some cool music projects incorporating both my parents music along with my own. Thank you once again. Please stay in touch. I love to meet fans, friends of my parents, and positive forces in the industry.

    Dawn-Marie Breau

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    This goes out to all of the warm and friendly commentators. First of all let me start by saying I am Lenny and Jewel breau's daughter. Secondly My mother is NO murderer. She loved my father very much. They had their ups and downs like any couple does. However my mother stuck by his side through all the drinking and hangups he had. He loved my mother very much.

    My mother went into a deep depression losing my father. For years I just remember her crying and asking God why did this happen? It was extremely difficult for her to not only lose my father so tragically but on top of it all, to deal with peoples heartless and rude comments and outrageous allegations. She also forfeited her career because of this depression. She didn't even want to go on living but she had to raise me and be there for family. Can you imagine coming home and being told that your husband is dead. Then someone accusing you of doing it?

    Well I was there. Me and my mother were at church that morning, when we came home, they told us the tragic news. He had been drinking (finished almost a fifth of vodka) that morning and went swimming. This is how he would cope and relax. So I believe he went peacefully.

    Anyway my mother had to be strong for me, like she has been her entire life. Struggle after struggle loss after loss. She has endured a great amount of pain, yet made it through. Strongest woman I know.

    If anyone has any questions involving my mother and father Id be happy to answer them as best as I can. My mother isn't very internet savvy and has only recently encountered these ridiculous comments on the internet concerning my father.

    There are also a lot of people releasing albums, books etc of my mothers and fathers music. It is my goal to regain rights and royalties on these. Also working on my own music and documentary.

    Any kind and positive comments regarding my parents would be appreciated. If anyone knew either of my parents and have a kind word or memory i'd love to speak with you. My father would want his legacy to impact people positively.

    My mother had a rough life and for once Id like to see her happy and not struggling to get by, while others fill their pockets and benefit off of my mother and father. A copy write is a copy write.

    Thank you Dawn Breau

    *You can check out a few videos ive posted on my channel. I would appreciate the likes and shares, thanks again to all of our friends and fans. Couldnt do it without you.

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    Hi Dawn, so wonderful to hear from you! You have many friends here, your father was one of the all time greats and forums like this one aim to keep reminding the world of such (not that the Jazz world needs reminding - the music speaks for itself!). Before others welcome you and share stories (unfortunately I have none), might I suggest that you include links to your site(s) so that we can visit? Like your mother, some of us here aren't so internet savvy either!

    Best Regards, pp

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    We still have the sparse body of work he left for us to appreciate him with.
    RIP Lenny

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    I think Lenny had four children. It was daughter Emily Hughes who produced “The Genius of Lenny Breau in 1999.
    The Genius of Lenny Breau (1999) - Plot Summary - IMDb

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    Yes, an interesting movie. Both it and the book "One Long Tune" present Jewel as the primary suspect in Lenny's murder. The book portrays her as physically and emotionally abusive to Lenny. Both the movie and the book portray Lenny as a functionally vulnerable man ill-equipped to deal with the normal demands of life effectively. Jewel is apparently the LAPD's only suspect; since there has been no prosecution or conviction, it can be assumed there is not a strong enough direct or circumstantial case for the DA to act upon. Arguably Lenny's drug addiction(s) would have brought him into repeated contact with less-than-honorable people in many places in the US and Canada. Only Lenny's murderer knows (or knew, given how long ago this was; the murderer might no longer be alive) the truth.

    The greatest loss is of course for Lenny's family and personal friends. Best wishes and peace to them!

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    My jazz teacher, Raj Rathor, was a student of Lenny's, and to me he had nothing but praise for him as a musician and as a man. While I'm not a big fan of Lenny's music, I do feel a little connection through Raj to him.

    Raj never talked about the circumstances of Lenny's death, although from what I've read online he seems to have had some insight to his later days. I know little about the circumstances of Lenny's death and have nothing to offer. I listen to his music sometimes and get enjoyment.

    I hope the families of both these deceased musicians find peace in the knowledge that their lifelong dedication to music has shed seeds on the fertile soil of many, many other musicians. In that sense, they live on.

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    "copyright" - not ' copy write '

    the YT video of Dawn-Marie Breau is apparently of a relatively young lady, who would have had to have been a small child when Lenny Breau was murdered; sometimes we remember things wrongly when we were so young . . .

    The book states many incidences of violence between the couple and Lenny's telling friends he thought his wife was crazy and dangerous. So much verbal testimony is hard to ignore.

    From what I have read, LB had four children - a son, Chet, and three daughters, one of which, Melody, died in 2014. Chet and Melody were the children of his first wife Valerie. Erica Hughes looks just like Joanne Glasscock - who changed her name to "Jewel Taylor" - so if she is convinced her mom did it, that is pretty telling.

    Reading about this woman's psycho-attacks against Lenny in a bar in front of people - knocking over a table and charging the stage - shows me that no matter how "helpful" she may have been to control LB's drug and alcohol intake and so forth, that alone is not ruling out the idea of a crime of passion - a fight could easily have occurred - she didn't need to strangle him with her bare hands - the coroner's report says "strangled" - there isn't a statement online saying HOW - done with a belt, a rope/cord?

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    Probably one of the extra horrors of a situation like this is that, for the families and survivors, the motivations and choices and actions are picked apart by armchair experts (like me) and blame is apportioned... by people who've never met anyone actually involved.

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    Dawn-Marie,

    I had only a brief exposure to Lenny and Jewel. I grew up in Stockton, CA, and remember them as newcomers to our church (at the time) around 1980 (Pastor Eugene Kraft). I was a classical player, and he and jewel would play/sing from time to time during the services. Their music was so beautiful, it could make you cry. And his seven string classical was super cool to me (a high school student at the time). I went off to college and only saw him on rare occaisions when I would come home to visit. When I learned of his death, I was very saddened. There were rumors of substance misuse.

    I went on to grad school and a professional career in healthcare. Now, part of my job involves helping those struggling with addiction. Decades later, I contintued in the classical and jazz guitar traditions. I played some of Lenny's arrangements. My son grew up hearing and listening to that music. He went on to music grad school in Boston, finishing in improvisational jazz at the New England Conservatory. He plays the guitar and is now a professional musician in New York. Interesting how interwoven all our lives are. I wish you peace.

    Andrew

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    Hi,
    There is no mystery to Chet Bakers death at all. Little Jimmy Scott was there, and I'm pretty certain Tom Schnabel knows this too. Chet was in the Hotel lobby on the make with a lady and had apparently made plans to go out. He darted upstairs to his room for his coat or something, came back down briefly and said I'm locked out of my room. Someone said something like get the concierge to let you in and Chet said, I've been climbing in buildings for 30 years. The room next door is open, I knocked but no one was there, I'll just duck in there and climb across the balcony. KAAATHUMP. C flat major.
    There were actually a few Americans there that know this besides Jimmy Scott that might still be alive, so how all the flying pigs got off the ground is the real mystery. But must admit them Pigs are the most aerodynamic animals next to birds bats and large eared elephants.Flap flap flap oink oink oink combats the Lark's morning song in many cities.
    He tried, half cut, to climb from one balcony to the next, that may of been easy when he was 30 but stewed and 58 is another ball game entirely. He fell end of story.

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    Umm, the thread is about Lenny Breau, not Chet Baker.

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    Lenny's death is complicated from a prosecution perspective. The DA didn't feel that there is a tight case apparently.

    It is very unusual for a woman to strangle a man to death unless the man is disabled in some way, like drugs, head trauma, or a chronic handicap. Presumably there were no witnesses. Some who know his wife would state how she saved him from his previous wicked ways, loved him, and would not kill him. Lenny's drug problems would be brought up by the defense. Edgy musicians die young all the time due to their shady lifestyles. Etc., etc.

    I don't know anything about his police investigation besides what's been written here. But I personally did death investigations with the police as part of my job for many years. There's no prosecution unless there's probability of conviction. People get away with bad stuff every day if they're clever or lucky.

    I love Lenny's work and am saddened by both his life and death. So I mean no disrespect with this video. But the video came to mind as I read this thread.


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    This thread recently celebrated its tenth birthday.

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    He positively did not commit suicide. I’ve never ever heard that suggested until reading it here. All facts show that Lenny was murdered.

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    Agreed.

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    I'm a new guy on here but I saw this thread and I feel like I need to resurrect it one last time. I believe I know who killed Lenny Breau and it wasn't his wife Jewel. I can talk about it now because the man is now also dead. His name was David Sniderman AKA David Jordan AKA David Jove AKA The Acid King. I met David in 1980 when I was technical director of a cable TV show called New Wave Theatre. The show was a half hour weekly music program that started out on local community access cable in Santa Monica and was picked up by USA network which gave it nationwide distribution. It was shot at Leon Russell's Paradise studio/soundstage in Burbank where I worked and helped build. David was the producer and creator of the show and it featured on screen host actor/musician Peter Ivers. NWT was a live showcase for new wave and punk bands and was considered very underground, counterculture and hip at the time. It was not unusual to see Ray Manzarek, David Lynch and other Hollywood music and film types show up to watch the tapings. David was scary intelligent with a commanding presence. And amazing to watch him barking out orders like a drill sergeant to a hundred people and pulling the show tapings together when they always seemed on the verge of chaos. I worked closely with David and spent hundreds of hours editing the shows together and would run into him off set in various scenes around Hollywood. David was also a black belt in 9 styles. One day in 1983 the host Peter Ivers was found dead in his loft bludgeoned to death and that was the end of New Wave Theatre. His murder was never solved but many people in that scene thought it was David in some kind of unrequited gay advance. You see Peter was a bit effeminate but definitely not gay. About 6 months later I ran into David at a club in Hollywood and he invited me over to his house where he got extremely buzzed and told me he dreamed he killed Peter. I excused myself and tried to avoid him from then on.

    Then in late summer 1984 I was in Nashville for some sessions and when I returned, Al Carness down at Valley Arts music store where I'd taken a seminar with Lenny one time, informed me Lenny had drowned. That night by chance I ran into David at an art gallery opening in Hollywood and he was high as a kite and walking with a cane. He said "I lost a friend a couple days ago - Lenny Breau". I said: "I know. He drowned" and how do you know Lenny? He said "I just do". He then asked me if I knew how many ways you can kill a man with a cane. I said "actually no I don't". He proceeded to run thru his martial arts routine with the cane right there in the art gallery and ended up hooking me by the back of my neck with the cane and pulling me towards him and catching the front of my throat with the edge of his hand. He then said "Lenny was strangled" and released me. I bailed immediately along with most of the crowd in the art gallery. A couple days later on a Friday the autopsy results were released and revealed Lenny had indeed been strangled. A couple days after that there was a memorial jam down at Donte's. Joe Pass was there, Joe Diorio was there. Herb Ellis, Bob Bain from the Tonight Show band, Carol Kaye - who'd introduced me to Lenny a few years before was there as well as a bunch of others including David who got up and said a few words. When it shut down, Jewel and I sat on the curb in front of Dante's and talked till dawn about everything that happened. She said it was a coke dealer who was close to Lenny but she'd never met him except to talk to him by phone when he was trying to locate Lenny. I started to realize that Peter Ivers and Lenny Breau had similar personality traits and they both had a sort of slightly effeminate speaking voice tho neither was gay which may or may not mean anything. The next day I called the police and told a homicide detective named Byrd that he needed to check out a guy named David Jove in reference to the Ivers and Breau murders which were a year apart and I told him everything I knew and explained that I may be the only guy who happened to be in both those scenes and told him what I thought and that it was way more than a hunch. I also told him not to mention my name because David was real smart, would put that together right away and come after me. Sure enough, the cop mentioned my name, David called me in the middle of the night and said a cop had come to him and asked about me. He said: "I told him you were OK so you don't have anything to worry about" He then said "hey man we gotta get together soon and burn one..." I told him I was getting ready to go on the road with Leon Russell but I'd catch up down the line. Long story short, David was radioactive in Hollywood from then on and never had another shot at producing TV. I never saw David again but never stopped worrying that I'd run into him at the House of Blues or something. A couple years after that I ran into Lee Ving (James Capallero) who was the lead singer in 'Fear' a punk rock band that was a regular on New Wave Theatre and he was now a country singer in band called 'Range War' in L.A. We had a chat about David Jove and I told him what I'd surmised and he said "You're not the only one who was in both of those scenes". Lee told me that he'd been a bartender at Donte's in the mid 80s and that David was a regular and coke supplier to various folks, had seen David and Lenny doing a little business and that Lenny often 'ran a tab' with David. When nothing came of either murder case, I felt I'd done my part and should just keep my mouth shut and put it behind me. I knew Jewell pretty well and I don't believe she could have or would have done that. She was a pretty good gal. I never saw her again after that night at Donte's.

    After looking over my shoulder for years, I finally got a phone call thru a friend of a friend that David had died of liver cancer in 2004 and only then did I feel like talking about all this sordid stuff again.

    In 2008 a book about the life and death of Peter Ivers came out called "In Heaven Everything Is Fine" after Ivers' tune in the David Lynch film Eraserhead. In the book David Jove is fingered by many others as the Peter's killer. Incidentally, way back in 1967 the Stones were famously busted at Keith's Redlands house in England which was a setup by an American drug dealer turned informant to save his own ass who went by the name "The Acid King". You guessed it - the acid king was David Jove. RIP Lenny. I tried
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    I was a big fan of New Wave Theater, first thing when I got home after gigs was watch it. Great way to unwind.

    As to the LB stuff, I can't say, but have no reason to doubt it. Tragic, in any case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stickman
    I'm a new guy on here but I saw this thread and I feel like I need to resurrect it one last time. I believe I know who killed Lenny Breau and it wasn't his wife Jewel. I can talk about it now because the man is now also dead. His name was David Sniderman AKA David Jordan AKA David Jove AKA The Acid King. I met David in 1980 when I was technical director of a cable TV show called New Wave Theatre. The show was a half hour weekly music program that started out on local community access cable in Santa Monica and was picked up by USA network which gave it nationwide distribution. It was shot at Leon Russell's Paradise studio/soundstage in Burbank where I worked and helped build. David was the producer and creator of the show and it featured on screen host actor/musician Peter Ivers. NWT was a live showcase for new wave and punk bands and was considered very underground, counterculture and hip at the time. It was not unusual to see Ray Manzarek, David Lynch and other Hollywood music and film types show up to watch the tapings. David was scary intelligent with a commanding presence. And amazing to watch him barking out orders like a drill sergeant to a hundred people and pulling the show tapings together when they always seemed on the verge of chaos. I worked closely with David and spent hundreds of hours editing the shows together and would run into him off set in various scenes around Hollywood. David was also a black belt in 9 styles. One day in 1983 the host Peter Ivers was found dead in his loft bludgeoned to death and that was the end of New Wave Theatre. His murder was never solved but many people in that scene thought it was David in some kind of unrequited gay advance. You see Peter was a bit effeminate but definitely not gay. About 6 months later I ran into David at a club in Hollywood and he invited me over to his house where he got extremely buzzed and told me he dreamed he killed Peter. I excused myself and tried to avoid him from then on.

    Then in late summer 1984 I was in Nashville for some sessions and when I returned, Al Carness down at Valley Arts music store where I'd taken a seminar with Lenny one time, informed me Lenny had drowned. That night by chance I ran into David at an art gallery opening in Hollywood and he was high as a kite and walking with a cane. He said "I lost a friend a couple days ago - Lenny Breau". I said: "I know. He drowned" and how do you know Lenny? He said "I just do". He then asked me if I knew how many ways you can kill a man with a cane. I said "actually no I don't". He proceeded to run thru his martial arts routine with the cane right there in the art gallery and ended up hooking me by the back of my neck with the cane and pulling me towards him and catching the front of my throat with the edge of his hand. He then said "Lenny was strangled" and released me. I bailed immediately along with most of the crowd in the art gallery. A couple days later on a Friday the autopsy results were released and revealed Lenny had indeed been strangled. A couple days after that there was a memorial jam down at Donte's. Joe Pass was there, Joe Diorio was there. Herb Ellis, Bob Bain from the Tonight Show band, Carol Kaye - who'd introduced me to Lenny a few years before was there as well as a bunch of others including David who got up and said a few words. When it shut down, Jewel and I sat on the curb in front of Dante's and talked till dawn about everything that happened. She said it was a coke dealer who was close to Lenny but she'd never met him except to talk to him by phone when he was trying to locate Lenny. I started to realize that Peter Ivers and Lenny Breau had similar personality traits and they both had a sort of slightly effeminate speaking voice tho neither was gay which may or may not mean anything. The next day I called the police and told a homicide detective named Byrd that he needed to check out a guy named David Jove in reference to the Ivers and Breau murders which were a year apart and I told him everything I knew and explained that I may be the only guy who happened to be in both those scenes and told him what I thought and that it was way more than a hunch. I also told him not to mention my name because David was real smart, would put that together right away and come after me. Sure enough, the cop mentioned my name, David called me in the middle of the night and said a cop had come to him and asked about me. He said: "I told him you were OK so you don't have anything to worry about" He then said "hey man we gotta get together soon and burn one..." I told him I was getting ready to go on the road with Leon Russell but I'd catch up down the line. Long story short, David was radioactive in Hollywood from then on and never had another shot at producing TV. I never saw David again but never stopped worrying that I'd run into him at the House of Blues or something. A couple years after that I ran into Lee Ving (James Capallero) who was the lead singer in 'Fear' a punk rock band that was a regular on New Wave Theatre and he was now a country singer in band called 'Range War' in L.A. We had a chat about David Jove and I told him what I'd surmised and he said "You're not the only one who was in both of those scenes". Lee told me that he'd been a bartender at Donte's in the mid 80s and that David was a regular and coke supplier to various folks, had seen David and Lenny doing a little business and that Lenny often 'ran a tab' with David. When nothing came of either murder case, I felt I'd done my part and should just keep my mouth shut and put it behind me. I knew Jewell pretty well and I don't believe she could have or would have done that. She was a pretty good gal. I never saw her again after that night at Donte's.

    After looking over my shoulder for years, I finally got a phone call thru a friend of a friend that David had died of liver cancer in 2004 and only then did I feel like talking about all this sordid stuff again.

    In 2008 a book about the life and death of Peter Ivers came out called "In Heaven Everything Is Fine" after Ivers' tune in the David Lynch film Eraserhead. In the book David Jove is fingered by many others as the Peter's killer. Incidentally, way back in 1967 the Stones were famously busted at Keith's Redlands house in England which was a setup by an American drug dealer turned informant to save his own ass who went by the name "The Acid King". You guessed it - the acid king was David Jove. RIP Lenny. I tried
    I googled Jove, and came up with the fact that he left Canada because he was wanted for a felony charge. He hung out with a lot of violent punk-rockers, and was known to be capable of violence himself.
    One article said that a possible motive for Ivers' murder could have been that Jove was very mad at Ivers, because he intended to leave the TV show at the time of his murder.
    A book has been written by Ed Ochs about Jove called "Freedom Spy: David Jove and the Meaning of Existence"(2012). I wonder what Ochs thinks about your theory?
    Although immediate family members are the most likely suspects in most murders, it would be difficult for a woman to strangle and transport LB's body to the pool. I don't know if Lenny had a lot of money, or had an insurance policy. If not, the drug aspect of the case seems more likely.
    This reminds me of another mysterious death, the case of Gary McFarland, which was 'solved' many years after the fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgcim
    This reminds me of another mysterious death, the case of Gary McFarland, which was 'solved' many years after the fact.
    What did happen with McFarland? I always smelled a rat about the bar story.

    Gotta be suspicious of wacky musician 'murder' stories though: Like the one about Art Blakey killing Bird---yeah, right?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by joelf
    What did happen with McFarland? I always smelled a rat about the bar story.

    Gotta be suspicious of wacky musician 'murder' stories though: Like the one about Art Blakey killing Bird---yeah, right?...
    He died in 1971 after somehow ingesting methadone in a drink in a bar in NYC's GreenWitch Village- Club 55.
    A documentary, "This Is Gary McFarland", said that the methadone belonged to a skanky, junkie,alchie, poet/writer (he co-wrote, "Candy", with the equally skanky Terry Southern)named Mason Hoffenberg.
    In an interview, Hoffenberg (who died in 1986) was asked about writer David Burnett. He said that he liked him. Then the interviewer said that he died recently. MH answered, "Yeah, I killed him."
    The interviewer said, "Excuse me?"
    MH then told the story about going into a club in NYC with two bags- one with clean underwear, and the other with two bottles of methadone. He was talking with David Burnett, and then left the club, but forgot the bag with the methadone. He said David Burnett and some other guy(McFarland) drank the methadone, and both died of heart attacks.
    Gene Lees believed he had poisoned their drinks with the methadone, but the cops never investigated, and the case was closed.
    The director of the doc says we'll probably never know the true story...

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    Ugh. Sorry I asked.

    Think I'll stay with Mason Reese...

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    Quote Originally Posted by joelf
    Ugh. Sorry I asked.

    Think I'll stay with Mason Reese...
    Yeah, he's also a suspect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davo
    Hi folks. I just ran into a guitar player here in Nashville (I'm a retired trumpet player) and we soon found that we both knew Lenny 'back in the day.' He told me that Lenny has become a widely known legend as he certainly deserved to be. But I'm astounded at the amount of info that came up when I 'Googled' him up. Wow! That's how I found this forum.

    Throughout the 70's and into the 80's Lenny spent about 3 months every year in Toronto, 3 months in L.A., 3 in Nashville, and 3 in NY. That seemed to be his life at the time. Several of us took turns being Lenny's "keeper" while he was in Nashville. I would go and find him passed out on the floor of a dirty apartment, bring him around, then take him out and put food in him to keep him alive. With Lenny, you just never knew when you'd get the bad news that we all knew was coming.

    He met Jewel and things changed...............for the better. I'm not challenging the negative opinions of her shared here and elsewhere, but I'm here to testify that there was another side to the story as well. She cleaned him up, got him sober and healthy, and got him focused again on his career. He even got straight enough for me to take him into a studio for some recording that I have never bothered to mix down. Great music, of course, but to get the real essence of his genius, you needed to have him in a small club atmosphere, surrounded by his friends. The studio just couldn't bring out the natural "performer" in this man. Incidentally, another mutual friend, the late Richard Cotten, did exactly that.............recorded miles and miles of live performances, most of which Richard accompanied Lenny on bass. I wonder where those recordings ever ended up.

    The Nashville Jazz Machine was an 18-piece rehearsal band made up of Nashville's 'A-team' of studio players back then. As I was privileged to serve as the band's leader, I constantly got calls from club owners to help them find and book small groups for the resurgence in jazz popularity we were enjoying at the time. Jewel would call me from L.A., tell me they would be in Nashville in a couple of weeks, and ask me to get Lenny some work. She was so protective of him she would always remind me to have a room away from the crowd that we could rush Lenny to between sets, before the dealers and ignorant hangers-on could get to him and get him high. He had no self control whatsoever.

    Now, maybe Jewel was his killer, and maybe not. But what I saw was a woman dedicated to Lenny's protection and well-being. Lenny was reported to have been strangled. Do you know how much physical strength it takes to strangle another human being? Do you realize how much time one must hold the victims throat shut? Much more time and strength than the movies portray, and certainly much more than most women are capable of. Besides, Lenny had a short neck, and that would make strangulation even more physically difficult for anyone to succeed with. And forget the "inheritance" motive...........Lenny never had 2 quarters to rub together all the years I knew him.

    I hope you guitar guys don't mind this old trumpet player encroaching into your domain here. But I just thought you might like to hear another side to the tragic saga surrounding the genius we were blessed to know, Lenny Breau.

    Dave Converse
    As most psychopathic abusers, Jewel could sometimes appear “normal” and perhaps even caring. I’ve spent decades researching for my documentary films, profiling my late father. I’ve spoken to dozens of people, from all over North America who described witnessing the mental and physical abuse. Jewel was beyond controlling, she stalked my dad; literally hunted him down when he would try to leave her. She often attacked him physically, leaving scratches and bruises that many people saw. There were two restraining orders against her, which she ignored. Once she was seen with her hands around his neck in a rage,in Nashville, backstage at a gig. I could go on and on. She’s an absolutely insane, big woman who wouldn’t have had a hard time overpowering my dad. It’s sickening and unjust that she remains free to this day. She’s living the miserable life that’s fitting for a murderer, I’ve heard and I can’t say that doesn’t bring me some comfort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily Lisa
    As most psychopathic abusers, Jewel could sometimes appear “normal” and perhaps even caring. I’ve spent decades researching for my documentary films, profiling my late father. I’ve spoken to dozens of people, from all over North America who described witnessing the mental and physical abuse. Jewel was beyond controlling, she stalked my dad; literally hunted him down when he would try to leave her. She often attacked him physically, leaving scratches and bruises that many people saw. There were two restraining orders against her, which she ignored. Once she was seen with her hands around his neck in a rage,in Nashville, backstage at a gig. I could go on and on. She’s an absolutely insane, big woman who wouldn’t have had a hard time overpowering my dad. It’s sickening and unjust that she remains free to this day. She’s living the miserable life that’s fitting for a murderer, I’ve heard and I can’t say that doesn’t bring me some comfort.
    Can the case be re-opened?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily Lisa
    I’ve spent decades researching for my documentary films, profiling my late father.
    However belated, condolences for your loss. Lotta people in Southern Maine remember Lenny well and positively.


    Quote Originally Posted by sgcim
    Can the case be re-opened?
    No statute of limitation on murder, but any type of legal case gets harder and harder to prove as time passes.

    Here's a bit of Lenny Breau:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily Lisa
    As most psychopathic abusers, Jewel could sometimes appear “normal” and perhaps even caring. I’ve spent decades researching for my documentary films, profiling my late father. I’ve spoken to dozens of people, from all over North America who described witnessing the mental and physical abuse. Jewel was beyond controlling, she stalked my dad; literally hunted him down when he would try to leave her. She often attacked him physically, leaving scratches and bruises that many people saw. There were two restraining orders against her, which she ignored. Once she was seen with her hands around his neck in a rage,in Nashville, backstage at a gig. I could go on and on. She’s an absolutely insane, big woman who wouldn’t have had a hard time overpowering my dad. It’s sickening and unjust that she remains free to this day. She’s living the miserable life that’s fitting for a murderer, I’ve heard and I can’t say that doesn’t bring me some comfort.
    Are you really the director of "The Genius of Lenny Breau"? It's a great documentary. So many people I recommended that film to, who weren't even jazz listeners, became fans of Lenny Breau's music.

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    I read "One Long Tune". I'm a LB fan and met him briefly one time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiliam 5371
    I read "One Long Tune". I'm a LB fan and met him briefly one time.