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    For his tone, Szabo played a Martin dreadnaught with a sound hole mounted DeArmond pickup. Not sure about his amps. That's a unique rig that gave him a very specific sound.

    As for his influences, take 1950s American jazz Hungarian folk music, Indian classical music and rock, add to the pot and stir.
    Try playing an major scale win your B string with the E string allowing to ring constantly and you'll get in the ballpark of some of Szabo's frequent moves. In other words, high pitched drones playing against moving melodies on the lower strings. Also chords with open strings and symmetrical arpeggios - up down back down. That's a very high level explanation of some of just some of the aspects of his sound.

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  3. #52

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyV
    For his tone, Szabo played a Martin dreadnaught with a sound hole mounted DeArmond pickup. Not sure about his amps. That's a unique rig that gave him a very specific sound.

    As for his influences, take 1950s American jazz Hungarian folk music, Indian classical music and rock, add to the pot and stir.
    Try playing an major scale win your B string with the E string allowing to ring constantly and you'll get in the ballpark of some of Szabo's frequent moves. In other words, high pitched drones playing against moving melodies on the lower strings. Also chords with open strings and symmetrical arpeggios - up down back down. That's a very high level explanation of some of just some of the aspects of his sound.
    Thats a start- and something that I can understand. I am assuming you are talking about the "E string" next to the B

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    Yes, play a melody on the B string, starting on the unison E note at the 5th fret with the drone on the high E string. You'll very quickly hear some familiar Szaboisms.

    Here's more on his gear: GABOR SZABO'S EQUIPMENT (GUITARS)

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    szabo also had a great move with getting his flat top acoustic to feedback on a note..sounding almost like an e-bow...a long sustaining drone that he managed to harness wonderfully..controlled feedback at it's best

    young players of the era like coryell and even santana borrowed the idea


    his playing was very horizontal...going up and down a string..sitar like...yet he also had his jazz harmony chops...unique player


    szabo and attila zoller...two rather obscure but influential players...guitarists guitarists


    szabo with a single coil equipped acoustic gibby j160-e..like john lennon used.. with his "sit on" toby amp!!



    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyV
    For his tone, Szabo played a Martin dreadnaught with a sound hole mounted DeArmond pickup. Not sure about his amps. That's a unique rig that gave him a very specific sound.
    I saw him in the early 70s at the Roxy in Hollywood... Martin D45, DeArmond pickup, Fender Super Reverb amp.

    I was around 14 years old, and I set out to get the same sound. It took a few years, I eventually ended up with a Takemine lawsuit copy of the D45, the DeArmond pickup, and a Fender Super Reverb amp. Still have the Takemine and the DeArmond pickup is somewhere in the house/garage. I've had those for over 40 years. The guitar is the one on the left of the image.
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    his use of the feedback does the same same thing to a song that bowing a bass does for me. It's some great stuff.

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    Gabor is great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRS
    Gabor is great!
    After listening him all evening long, I have to agree!

    I just noticed that on Belsta River the bass player is Pekka Pohjola, who was pretty much the most legendary bassist/composer in Finland (from that era, and otherwise too). If you haven't heard him, check out his solo albums. If I say Zappa asked him to join his band at one point, it should be reference enough..

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyV
    Yes, play a melody on the B string, starting on the unison E note at the 5th fret with the drone on the high E string. You'll very quickly hear some familiar Szaboisms.

    Here's more on his gear: GABOR SZABO'S EQUIPMENT (GUITARS)
    Hello, I am excited to find a group that is interested in Gabor...I've loved him since finding Bacchanal and I've never met anyone else who likes him despite living in NYC and working jazz nights in bars in Brooklyn.

    (Shrug emoji)

    I am going to be more thoughtful in reading your replies to how he arrived at his tone...my understanding was he had a guitar that went out of tune a lot so he crafted drones so he could compensate...I don't really understand. Has anyone else read this? Does it make sense to downtune the top strings because your guitar goes out of tune?

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    szabo and attila zoller...two rather obscure but influential players...guitarists guitarists

    Thanks for the heads up on Zoller...are there any other artists that you would recommend?

    I always read that Gabor's quirk was a result of his guitar falling out of tune...but he obviously had a respect for the sitar and oud...

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    My very first guitar influences were Barney Kessel, Wes (with his brothers), and Gabor Sczabo and Dennis Budimir with Chico Hamilton. I had an excellent teacher and mentor in my teens who knew him. While my teacher was very mainstream bop, he had great admiration for Gabor's playing and musicianship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beneluxer

    Thanks for the heads up on Zoller...are there any other artists that you would recommend?
    hey welcome aboard

    guitarist brad shepik (schoeppach)...especially early on, with groups- pachora, and the tiny bell trio

    check this thread for more info and some vids

    brad shepik

    cheers