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I read (somewhere) that Andy Summers can play traditional/straight jazz very well. Anyone know anything about that? I know he was a studio guitarist at one point in his musical career. I've only heard his work with The Police.
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09-25-2024 06:07 PM
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Just don't listen to Steve Howe playing jazz. I think there a recording somewhere of him playing Four on Six.
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You made me look for it...painful to watch and I love early Yes records...
Originally Posted by henryrobinett
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I know. Very painful. I was/am a big Yes fan. I saw them on their Close To The Edge Tour. I was disappointed in that they played every EXACTLY like the record. I wanted to hear them stretch out a bit. But that's not who they are. Originally Posted by vinlander
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'Round Midnight w/ Sting
Seems to be a whole dedicated Monk record. Monk would have hated him for not playing his original changes.
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This is pre-Police Sting and Andy Summers. And not jazz.
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I have quite a few Andy Summers albums. There is at least one that is straight ahead jazz. I think it might be the one with John Etheridge. I have also seen him play live a few times. I dug it.
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Damn, how time is running. I once borrowed this (fusion? prog-rock?) album from the public library ca. 35 years ago (on cassette!) and listened to it for quite a while but never since. Originally Posted by Bop Head
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I've heard that Steve Howe jazz record, or at least the first 10 seconds. But the only Yes I really like is "Owner of a Lonely Heart" with it's cheeseball digital harmonized 5ths guitar solo. Now that is some good shit!
Anyway, Andy Summers did an album called The Golden Wire. Paul McCandless plays on it and t's a bit new-agey/Oregon sounding. But I liked it back in the day, and I think it still holds up (if you're into the Oregon end of things). I've since checked out other albums but nothing else has clicked with me.
He was always a very intelligent and tasty player. He came up with cool parts that were essential to the song. His use of stacked 5ths was a bit of a bridge from rock to jazz for me. It made me interested in different chord construction that was more ambiguous and colorful than regular diatonic triads.
This is the first tune off The Golden Wire. Always liked how sinewy it is.
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Summers put out a an album of Monk tunes called "Green Chimneys" in 1998. SFAIK, that's his only straightahead record.
Pe-Police He was a fixture in the 60s London blues/rock scene and was in incarnations of Soft Machine and the Animals. IIRC, he has said in interviews that he played some jazz back then. Then he went to music school in the US and morphed into more of a touring sideman/studio musician, also playing some jazz. Post-Police, it has been kind of more of the same, but with more of a jazz emphasis. I saw him a couple of times in the 90s playing fusion, one of those shows was a double bill with Michael Brecker.
I'd say he's pretty good, but not Micheal Brecker good.
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I saw them in about 1976, or so. We were in the 12th row, or there about. I really dug it. They had the revolving stage thing going. One of our friends got so drunk he passed out the entire show. What I like doing now is seeing first reaction videos on YouTube when people listen to Yes tunes. The organ solo in Roundabout blows them away ever time. Originally Posted by henryrobinett
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Yeah, that’s the one that I was thinking of. It’s in my library but nothing has come up on my random play in a long time. I think his real forte is more of an avant garde type of thing. Originally Posted by John A.
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There's also his 'Peggy's Blue Skylight' album - a homage to Mingus.
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Oh man, at first I thought is was supposed to be a joke. Originally Posted by vinlander
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Thanks for pointing me to that. Originally Posted by bleakanddivine
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But that's not Steve Howe. That was Trevor Rabin, South African guitarist. He also wrote it. Originally Posted by supersoul
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No, I knew that! I trying to say that my favorite Yes doesn't even include Steve Howe. Originally Posted by henryrobinett
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My first axe was a black Westone Trevor Rabin signature superstrat with Floyd Rose licensed tremolo. I bought it not because I was a fan of the Trevor Horn production but because at 17 it was an electric I could afford to buy at the local music store after working two weeks on holidays at the local bakery factory. Later I learned to hate the Floyd Rose because of getting out of tune when a string broke on stage and because of the complicated installation of a new string which required a hex wrench. I was happy when I became a Thorndal endorser with a 50ies style surf green strat copy with Gotoh locking tuners. Originally Posted by henryrobinett
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Oh!! lol. Gotcha. Originally Posted by supersoul
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I really like Yes, I grew up on them and Genesis though I stopped following them after Going For The One, and Genesis after And Then There Were 3. I only listen to them once in a blue moon anymore when the mood strikes. Originally Posted by henryrobinett
I know that Lonely Heart song and saw that tour under protest, my high school buddies begged me to go.
It was around 1980, Howe and Wakemen were gone and they were dipping into the crappy 80s commercial bag that all the prog bands were doing (ie: the record companieswere making them play), including that awful 'supergroup' Asia w Howe, Carl Palmer and John Wetton, a band my little brother begged me to take him to see, blech....
Getting back to Lonely Heart, that's always been an instant channel switch tune for me, can't stand it.
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And Then There Were Three is a great album that I am revisiting after 30 years after finding out that it was produced by the same David Hentschel who co-produced Andy Summers' The Golden Wire. Originally Posted by wintermoon
I did not care much about Owner Of A Lonely Heart until I got a little more into Trevor Horn after becoming a fan of Seal in the 90ies whom I consider on of the greatest singers. (A friend from school who was into the Police as well had shown me Trevor Horn's Frankie Goes To Holywood productions already in the mid-80ies.)
AFAIK Seal in the studio never managed to sing the song better than on the demo tape recorded in Wendy & Lisa's bathroom so Trevor Horn used that vocal.
The old Yes sound I discovered only much later when a crazy hippy friend said I should listen to it calling their sound "mushroom-y".
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It looks like we have very similar taste when it comes to the band Yes: E.g. I was into them until they went commercial and released Lonely Heart. I also never liked the vocals from their lead singer (just too high of a pitch for my taste). Thus, I got their albums from a friend and put them into a reel-to-reel tape deck and created my own tracks removing as much of the vocals as possible! Originally Posted by wintermoon
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Less Steve Howe, more Steve, Why?
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Has anyone heard the time Andy Summers jammed on bass with Jimi Hendrix? It's with Robert Wyatt on drums and Zoot Money on piano, recorded in LA in Oct, 1968.
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