Is this an overlooked part of Metheny's sound?

[AdroitMage]

I'm sure he does, they make the best audience, don't talk during your performance.

True, but it still could be kind of distracting if you had a whole audience full of mimes doing their mime routines during the show.

[Christian Miller]

I don’t think it’s advisable to post pictures of people in swimwear with respect to Metheny….


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[Dennis D]

I don’t think it’s advisable to post pictures of people in swimwear with respect to Metheny….


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Surf's Up !

' Now were the vertical stripes standard w/ option for horizontal or ? '

[Mick-7]

It is that time of year.... believe the rule of fashion is vertical stripes with white pants or white guitars - plus Brian didn't want to look fat.

[AdroitMage]

It is that time of year.... believe the rule of fashion is vertical stripes with white pants or white guitars - plus Brian didn't want to look fat.

Ya got it backward Mickey. No harm, no foul, just sayin'.

[BigDaddyLoveHandles]

Oh! An 'oop! @1:45

[Mick-7]

Ya got it backward Mickey. No harm, no foul, just sayin'.

Oh, you're right... well, at that age, Brian and the boys didn't have to worry about looking chubby so vertical stripes were o.k. But later on....

[AdroitMage]

And now for something completely different.

Here's a link to a vintage write-up by JBL themselves, including some neat pics and annotated drawings, describing what was so unique about JBL Alnico speakers. These design improvements originated with the JBL F series: D130F, D120F, and D110F.

Some people here might find it interesting. Scroll to the 5th post: JBL D130F replacement? - OffsetGuitars.com

JBL Edgewound Voice Coil

[Litterick]

Yeah, sure. That's why we call it the "stars & hoops"
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No, those are stripes: they are two-dimensional. Hoops are three-dimensional: they are circles. The metal strips on a barrel are hoops: they go around the barrel. The bars of colour on Metheny's shirts go around his torso.

[Christian Miller]

We can also note that hoops are topologically distinct from stripes

I’m waiting for AdroitMage to dig out an interview with Metheny where he refers to ‘stripes’.

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[Dennis D]

This vid ticks most of the PM boxes - - - stripes, hair ...... : )

[Bop Head]

There might be some musical mojo in stripes. Two fellow guitar pioneers both favor(ed) them.

Are you talking about this guy?

[Mick-7]

There might be some musical mojo in stripes. Two fellow guitar pioneers both favor(ed) them.

But apparently only horizontal stripes have mojo - unless you play surf music.

[AdroitMage]

Cool, because horizontal is slang for "doing it, getting busy, makin' whoopee, knockin' boots," etc., etc.

[AdroitMage]

But apparently only horizontal stripes have mojo - unless you play surf music.

There's practicality and vanity too. The fashionistas say that horizontal stripes make you l look taller and slimmer, and vertical stripes can make you look shorter and fatter. That prolly has much to do with why one is more popular than the other.

[mr. beaumont]

I don’t think it’s advisable to post pictures of people in swimwear with respect to Metheny….


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Why not? I just got back from the beach.

[AdroitMage]

I’m waiting for AdroitMage to dig out an interview with Metheny where he refers to ‘stripes’.

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Nah, I just think it's a cool looking shirt, when Pat wears it, anyway. It looks great on him when he's jamming in concert, and his fans like it too.

From his answer, he doesn't want to waste time thinking about fashion and what clothes he's going to wear today. Could it be because he's a musical genius? IMNSHO Pat is a musical genius if there ever was one. Apparently, the physics genius Einstein had a bunch of essentially the same gray suit, because he didn't want to waste time thinking about something so trivial as what to wear today.

I can understand that to a degree. I've never understood how some people get so freakin' excited about clothes, and spending thousands of dollars on a freaking piece of fabric. Hey, if that's what they want to do, they certainly have that right, but I just don't get that whole thing. I wouldn't go as far as Pat or Einstein, but I definitely get where they are coming from. If I was a rich musician, there are things I would certainly enjoy blowing my money on, but clothes prolly wouldn't be one of them.

Pat is obviously a guy who uses most of his time thinking about being a musician, finding the best musical notes, writing, recording, performing etc., and that has obviously paid off for him.

I would love to be lucky enough to meet him one day, and even be unimaginably lucky enough to jam with him one day, talk about music, jazz improv on guitar, and what that's all about. Having the opportunity to do THAT, for example, is something I would spend some coin on.

[yebdox]

Why not? I just got back from the beach.

Clearly a side gig as a stuntman for Borat has it's advantages, though I imagine there were certain standards needed to qualify. Did you work on "Bruno" as well?

[AdroitMage]

Beautiful girls in bikinis, I'm all for that, but that hideous "mankini" thing is a definite no bueno.

I prefer a lady who looks good in a bikini and can also stimulate my mind. I need a lady who can stimulate my mind like this woman

[supersoul]

From his answer, he doesn't want to waste time thinking about fashion and what clothes he's going to wear today. Could it be because he's a musical genius? IMNSHO Pat is a musical genius if there ever was one. Apparently, the physics genius Einstein had a bunch of essentially the same gray suit, because he didn't want to waste time thinking about something so trivial as what to wear today.

I can understand that to a degree. I've never understood how some people get so freakin' excited about clothes, and spending thousands of dollars on a freaking piece of fabric. Hey, if that's what they want to do, they certainly have that right, but I just don't get that whole thing. I wouldn't go as far as Pat or Einstein, but I definitely get where they are coming from. If I was a rich musician, there are things I would certainly enjoy blowing my money on, but clothes prolly wouldn't be one of them.

We all have fashion, even if that fashion is anti-fashion. What you wear is a statement, even if the statement is that you're too busy with more important things.

Clothes don't have to cost a lot of money. It's fun to go to thrift stores and find things that look good. Thrift stores in America are overflowing with good clothes that are cheap. If you know what you're doing you can look respectably good. Meaning, you don't have to look like you shop at a thrift store.

Fear and Clothing: Unbuckling American Style by Cintra Wilson is a funny book on the subject of fashion.

[supersoul]

Why not? I just got back from the beach.

Looking good, Jeff!

[AdroitMage]

I don’t think it’s advisable to post pictures of people in swimwear with respect to Metheny….

I don't know about you, but around me, babes in swimwear are always welcome.

[Christian Miller]

I don't know about you, but around me, babes in swimwear are always welcome.

That’s not the image I had I mind. If you’d seen it you’d know.

Be glad Tapatalk won’t let me upload images.


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[AdroitMage]

An interesting bit of jazz guitar trivia for those who aren't hip, Metheny probably became interested in using the JBL D130 15" speakers in his rig because his inspiration on jazz guitar, Wes Montgomery, played through a Standel Super Custom XV amp that featured a 15" JBL D130 speaker.

I'm sure most of you know what a HUGE influence Wes was on Pat. so that's probably why Pat incorporated the JBL D130F speakers into his rig; that and they were renowned for their superb clean tones. This also means that Wes's wonderful tone was from an AlNiCo speaker too.

I wonder if this thread may inspire anyone to look into an AlNiCo speaker(s) for their jazz amp? LOL

So Pat's already legendary, 20 Grammy Award-winning and counting, only artist to win Grammy's in 10 different categories tone was in part due to using 6 speakers, all with delay lines, and the two 15's having a modulation lines; 4 10" vintage Eminence AlNiCo speakers and 2 15" JBL D130F AlNiCo speakers; unless he put JBL speakers in his combo amp too, which he may have done.

I write this kind of stuff because I'm a gear nerd, so I think this gear is super cool, AND I think tantamount to being a great musician is having great tone. In fact, Metheny himself said in an interview, that when he decided he was going to start making records, the first thing he thought was that he was going to have great tone, and went about finding the gear to do just that. He had had his ES 175 since he was 12. The guitar itself, as with any electric instrument, is only part of the equation. I think it's important to consider every piece of gear you use in the signal chain, the guitar, amp, effects, all the way to the choice of speakers at the end of the chain. Anyway, that's my theory, and I'm sticking to it.

You can see the D130's aluminum dome peeking through the grill cloth of the Standel. In their day, Standel amps were considered "boutique" like amps. Each one was individually hand made by artisan's in their factory using high quality components, including JBL speakers.