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  1. #51

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevebol
    Blues isn't a how it's a what.
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    I was hoping I'd get busted for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonray
    Jazz is the teacher - Blues is the preacher
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    Last edited by Stevebol; 04-01-2018 at 02:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitaRoland
    Jazz vs Blues? Is there more similarities than differences? I feel like certain questions on this forum seem to be ignored when it comes to blues - and I mean jazzy blues?

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    'Jazzy blues' isn't jazz blues. Jazzy blues is a novelty and good guitarists like Duke Robilliard who do it know that. He's been around a long time.
    Jazz blues is different. It's how jazz musicians play blues.

    And, I'm talking to an 8 year old thread....

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    I just found out that my classical guitar is dead! It was a loner from my cousin's husband who lives in Charleston and he kept it up in the attic so apparently that humidity did it in before he even gave it to me! The bridge is falling off and so are the bracings inside the guitar. The problem is it would cost more than the guitar is worth to fix it and I talked to my cousin and she said that it wasn't a big deal and he's cool with it. So now I gotta figure out what kinda burial I want lol. I'm leaning towards a Who smash and bash type of sendoff. Any thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FZ2017
    I just found out that my classical guitar is dead! It was a loner from my cousin's husband who lives in Charleston and he kept it up in the attic so apparently that humidity did it in before he even gave it to me! The bridge is falling off and so are the bracings inside the guitar. The problem is it would cost more than the guitar is worth to fix it and I talked to my cousin and she said that it wasn't a big deal and he's cool with it. So now I gotta figure out what kinda burial I want lol. I'm leaning towards a Who smash and bash type of sendoff. Any thoughts?

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    Sounds like a bad case of the blues, there, bud.

    Maybe use it to practice repairs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevebol
    'Jazzy blues' isn't jazz blues. Jazzy blues is a novelty and good guitarists like Duke Robilliard who do it know that. He's been around a long time.
    Jazz blues is different. It's how jazz musicians play blues.

    And, I'm talking to an 8 year old thread....
    I think Duke Robillard's a fine player. He made a couple records with Herb Ellis that really work for me.


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    There is nothing less jazz or blues than the word 'jazzy'.

    I hate that word. And I generally love words.

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    This whole worry about playing "right" for a style... I understand some degree of respect toward authenticity, but also creativity. The Blues Police get annoyed when someone mixes BB King licks and T-Bone Walker licks in the same song. The Jazz Snobs do similarly, maybe less so, more politely.

    It could be much worse; according to Wiki, there are currently almost five dozen distinct named types of Heavy Metal genres (with cute names!).

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    I come at that two ways, I guess.

    Ideally, I'd always get to be "me." But certain gigs aren't about me. If someone hires me for a certain sound, it's my job to supply it. It's just important to know what''s what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thumpalumpacus
    Sounds like a bad case of the blues, there, bud.

    Maybe use it to practice repairs?
    Yeah but will it cost a bunch of money or is that mostly labor costs for time paying a luthier? The materials to fix it will probably be much more reasonable than paying a luthier I guess!

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    So who's everybody's favorite bluesman at least right now? Currently I'm listening to T-bone, Guitar Slim, Lightning Hopkins, Clarence Gatemouth brown, and Johnny Guitar Watson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FZ2017
    Yeah but will it cost a bunch of money or is that mostly labor costs for time paying a luthier? The materials to fix it will probably be much more reasonable than paying a luthier I guess!

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    ... and the experience you gain, priceless, perhaps ...

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    Blues is about call and response. Jazz is about speaking until you are blue in the face and listening until your ears bleed. The notes are the same, however. My 2 cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thumpalumpacus
    I think he's great, very blues but informed by a nice harmonic sensibility that goes beyond I7-IV7-V7. Definitely on the blues side of the continuum, but full of sweet and sour.
    He grew up in Texas and went to the same church every Sunday with Blind Lemon Jefferson. When he moved to LA he played with Fats Waller and Louis Armstrong!

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    How come the church my parents dragged me to didn't have legendary bluesman?! What a rip!

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    What I don't understand is the whole vibrato thing! If a horn player shakes a note (plays vibrato) it's all good. Meaning it's still considered jazz! But if a guitar player bends or shakes a note ala bb king it's not jazz anymore! It's considered blues. Any thoughts?

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    Necro maybe, but I cant help asking myself in the context of this thread ...."Is Stormy Monday blues? jazz? both?"
    I vote "both"

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    In Kansas City Lightning, Stanley Crouch records Biddy Fleet’s recollection of Charlie Parker’s early experiments with what became bebop. Fleet says Cherokee “was purposely shunned by most of the musicians because of the bridge,” so: “You can use those hard tunes to get rid of the guys who can only play the blues all night. They can’t mess with that stuff, and then you can keep right along working on what you want to get deeper into.”


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    there would not be much sense to oppose jazz vs blues. Jazz would not exist without the blues, from the historical and musical point of view. It is the characteristic notes of the blues, blue notes, that upset western harmony in jazz, both at the origin and at the birth of the bebop

    in my book JAZZ ET PROBLÈMES DES HOMMES en 2002 I devoted a chapter to the relationship of blues with jazz, through the testimony of the musicians
    II1.8 quand les musiciens de jazz parlent du blues

    then, if we take the blues as a musical genre, and apart from the type Mississipi Blues Singers-Guitarists, the blues singers women are originally accompanied by jazz orchestras (Ma Rainey, Bessie Smith ... by Louis Armstrong, Sidney Bechet)

    regarding the guitar, I guess everything was said in this topic