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    It will be interesting to see what structure it takes. Ninety minutes of japes and jokes would be unbearable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BickertRules
    If there’s one thing in the world I don’t need to hear another word about, it’s The Beatles.

    I think the continuing obsession (even among people born after the group dissolved) with a moderately talented and highly derivative English band that lasted around a decade and probably only had something mildly original and minimally valuable to say for maybe 2 years at most is an indication of the artistic and musical wasteland that was the ensuing half decade of popular “music” from 1970-2020.

    A 20-something today excited about the Beatles is analogous to me, as a 20-year-old in 1980, being obsessed with The Paul Whiteman Orchestra.
    Dude, you're boring.

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    I discovered the Paul Whiteman Orchestra when I was twenty. Simon Rattle and the City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra created a revival in interest with some concerts of his work.

    Many young people like the Beatles. This Internet thing allows them to discover all sorts of music at no cost.

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    Dude the Beatles were ridiculous composers. My favorite thing is that a lot of their tunes were written like jazz standards! Meaning that the melody would progress with the chords in a complex and logical progression. Not just a jam on a couple chords etc like a lot of rock. Pretty cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BickertRules
    A 20-something today excited about the Beatles is analogous to me, as a 20-year-old in 1980, being obsessed with The Paul Whiteman Orchestra.
    The first record took 3 months to get to the shop I ordered it from (because my mate had a saturday job there)

    When I went to pick it up the shop was full of police because the window display was full of the second, which I also bought, which redeemed me in the eyes of the punks who ran the shop...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive
    Dude, you're boring.
    That’s probably true but so are The Beatles.

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    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HmjRM3AziTY

    this thread made me have a look round
    this vid is quite interesting on how the Beatles
    wrote their songs etc

    (persevere it gets better as it goes along)

    working on Strawberry Fields Forever
    at the moment .... great tune , not boring

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    I had subscribed to David Bennett's channel a few years back. I really like his content and he does a good job communicating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobomov
    Looks like Linda is there too?
    Just from the look of it Linda was a spectator/guest, not sitting right in front of the guys as they played or right next to John like a goddamn shadow.

    Sorry, I just threw the last thing in there. I'm REALLY not anti-Yoko.
    Last edited by Doctor Jeff; 12-24-2020 at 09:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Jeff
    Just from the look of it she was a spectator/guest, not sitting right in front of the guys as they played or right next to John like a goddamn shadow.

    Sorry, I just threw the last thing in there. I'm REALLY not anti-Yoko.
    No need to be sorry really. If you are a fan of the Beatles doesn't mean you have to like Yoko. In fact the opposite is more true.

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    Just a note. for whatever the Paul Whiteman Orchestra did it produced some legendary musicians, especially in the formative stages of jazz in the late 20s.. This is the band that showcased the likes of the legendary Bix Beiderbecke as well as the first jazz guitarist and violinist Eddie Lang and Joe Venuti from the great city of Philadelphia among many other legends of the day like Frankie Trumbauer, Red Norvo etc



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    Quote Originally Posted by BickertRules
    That’s probably true but so are The Beatles.
    In jazz, songs provide the inspiration and vehicles by which the greatness of the soloist as well as the genius of the original composition can form a creative child.
    I love this performance. I love the arrangement. I love the original song...it's a Beatles tune with all the elegance, sophistication, economy and lyricism of the best of Van Heusen, Porter, Rogers, and Sondheim IMHO.

    But you can find it boring. Our tastes are just different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Jeff
    Just from the look of it Linda was a spectator/guest, not sitting right in front of the guys as they played or right next to John like a goddamn shadow.

    Sorry, I just threw the last thing in there. I'm REALLY not anti-Yoko.
    I was listening to the record she did with Ornette, Charlie Haden, Eddie Blackwell and David Izenzon. What ever judgements one may pass on differing tastes, this is heavy company and the music they make is very much a collaboration of disparate yet equally creative contributors. It may not be your cup of tea but I'm savoring it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BickertRules
    If there’s one thing in the world I don’t need to hear another word about, it’s The Beatles.

    I think the continuing obsession (even among people born after the group dissolved) with a moderately talented and highly derivative English band that lasted around a decade and probably only had something mildly original and minimally valuable to say for maybe 2 years at most is an indication of the artistic and musical wasteland that was the ensuing half decade of popular “music” from 1970-2020.

    A 20-something today excited about the Beatles is analogous to me, as a 20-year-old in 1980, being obsessed with The Paul Whiteman Orchestra.
    Dude, get of your high horse. The Beatles provided millions of people with joy and inspired many thousands to pick up the guitar. If you'd truly love music, that alone would be good enough. If you can't hear another word about them, why bother reading another thread about it?

    The interesting thing about this new documentary is that the original Let it Be movie focussed on the negative. That's how most people remember the breakup of the Beatles. But in fact there are audio recordings that show that they had plans to record a new album after Abbey Road. Too bad it never happened.

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    Dude the Beatles are pretty friggin good from an objective stantpoint. They just can be kinda lame and wussy sounding is all. I can't listen to them all the time so I get it if someone doesn't like them personally, but they're pretty friggin good. All 4 of them could sing lead well, all 4 were good on their instrument (or others), and 3 of them, everyone except Ringo were great composers. That's pretty friggin rare. Analyze the depth of some of their compositions and they're on par with the great jazz standards. That's really rare.

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    I have always had questions about the Beatles and I do not believe in objective standards of taste, but it is clearly significant that one of the world’s most successful film makers is in an editing suite in New Zealand, cutting footage to make a film about a band that broke up over fifty years ago.

    One of my Christmas presents was Craig Brown's book, One Two Three Four: The Beatles In Time. I hope its emphasis on time will answer some of my questions.

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    I didn't say taste was objective (nice straw man), I said they did irrefutable things that are quantifiable from a musical analysis perspective. If you reread my points.

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    for anyone wanting to start down the beatle rabbit hole...

    beatles gear...by andy babiuk (a musician & guitar shop owner)

    just make sure to get the latest edition...as updates do occur with new revelations! hah



    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint 55
    I didn't say taste was objective (nice straw man), I said they did irrefutable things that are quantifiable from a musical analysis perspective. If you reread my points.
    I was not responding to your post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litterick
    I have always had questions about the Beatles and I do not believe in objective standards of taste, but it is clearly significant that one of the world’s most successful film makers is in an editing suite in New Zealand, cutting footage to make a film about a band that broke up over fifty years ago.

    One of my Christmas presents was Craig Brown's book, One Two Three Four: The Beatles In Time. I hope its emphasis on time will answer some of my questions.
    Don‘t know your questions but at least the book puts a different spin on the Beatles story. The way it‘s been retold by thousands of Americans who never got over the first Ed Sullivan show does get boring after a while.


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    I think Yesterday by Paul McCartney is an excellent chord solo piece and the song intro to And Your Bird Can Sing is really excellent as well!

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    Yes, you are right.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joeontheguitar
    Dude, get of your high horse. The Beatles provided millions of people with joy and inspired many thousands to pick up the guitar. If you'd truly love music, that alone would be good enough. If you can't hear another word about them, why bother reading another thread about it?

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    That montage was very enjoyable and I'm looking forward to the film. I came back to the Beatles, after a very long hiatus, mainly through Bill Frisell. Inspired by his approach of sticking close to the melodies, I worked up solo versions of In My Life and Free As A Bird, which I've played live. And now trying to tackle Lucy In the Sky With Diamonds to fuse with In My Life and Blackbird to fuse with Free As Bird for a couple of medleys. Fun to play and good crowd pleasers. Also been using the Beatles Real Book with pruned down and slightly jazzed up lead sheets of most all their tunes.

    As most of you know, there are several albums of Beatles tunes by jazz and other guitarists. My fave at the moment is Chet Atkins Picks On The Beatles. Recently, I attended a workshop with Joshua Breakstone in Japan, whose album Jazz Meets The Beatles jazzed up the tunes so much that they took on a life of their own, and which is quite the antithesis to Frisell's approach. So, just like many songs that we play from the Great American Songbook, maybe that's one sign of good songwriting: They lend themselves to many contexts and renditions and styles and interpretations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Jeff
    I admit I can't get enough of the Beatles. I particularly like their middle period, when they were finding their way in the studio and as songwriters--Revolver and Rubber Soul. But they're all good.

    The interesting thing is how strongly shared that sentiment is among my family. Without my urging, my kids are all Beatles fanatics. My ex-BIL is a Beatles obsessive and wrote a forward to one of their big coffee-table books. My fiancee's BIL plays gigs featuring songs from the British Invasion (before 1965), about 2/3 of which are Beatles songs.

    And the 2 remaining Beatles have music coming out this month. (I heard Ringo's new song yesterday, and TBH it didn't overwhelm me, but it didn't totally suck, either.)
    Doctor Jeff,
    Okay, I’m old! Just curious, What does BIL, and TBH mean?

    Thanks,
    Eddie

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    Brother-in-law, to be honest.