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Oh, no ... late! My apologies, jazz people!
Our standard for Jan 2021 will be More Than You Know (Vincent Youmans, Edward Eliscu, Billy Rose, 1929).
Background:
Jazz Standards Songs and Instrumentals (More Than You Know)
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01-02-2021 11:08 PM
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I've done this so let's get it over with!
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Originally Posted by ragman1
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I prefer more jazz feel version with great intro:
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the late Joe Beck on guitar at about 2:40 i think.sorry 2:55
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Originally Posted by EarlBrother
Best
Kris
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Nino Rota's theme for Fellini's LA DOLCE VITA-look at first 56 s...
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Ovader -
I immediately thought of Nino Rota's theme for Fellini's LA DOLCE VITA when I heard your version.
Nino Rota's name has come up before allied to plagiarism although apparently he was plagiarizing himself rather than others.
"In 1972 he was nominated for an Oscar for his score for The Godfather; however, someone unjustly accused him of plagiarism. He protested this accusation and the charges were dropped because the music from which the theme song had been derived was a song he had written in 1946."
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Originally Posted by EarlBrother
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Originally Posted by EarlBrother
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Anyone else finding it hard to avoid slipping into "Tenderly" with this?
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So here's my first shot at a clip, just the head and a snippet of improv before the wheels fell off.
I do not deserve this L5ces.
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Lovely chords, Lawson. Did you work those out? Really nice. It was like Christmas again!
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I can’t remember having heard this song before. Lovely tune! Not very common on Spotify it seems.
Anyway... here’s me playing chord melody and singing. It helps me memorise a tune.
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I am enjoying everyone's versions.
Ragman: Great mood and improv. Do you have a list of the tunes in advance? You got that out so quick!
Lawson: Wonderful tone and execution on all those chords.
Peterson: I like your organic approach!
Here is my take on the song. I decided on a bit of a quicker tempo after listening to the Billie Holiday version.
I'm not that pleased with my execution, but I wanted to join the party, so here it is. I will try and put out another version with a chorus of improv as well if I am able to before the end of the month.
Alan
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Originally Posted by ragman1
The bridge needs more attention. I love the melody and it just sounds beautiful played on an archtop with a warm amp. This could really be Johnny Smith country.
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Originally Posted by alpop
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Originally Posted by lawson-stone
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Originally Posted by alpop
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Originally Posted by ragman1
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Here is another clip from yesterday, almost identical but I'm using a different amplifier and recording arrangement. Curious about which actually sounds better, or if they are just different. If you have a chance to listen to both and share an impression, I'm grateful.
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The first one is smoother, at least on the videos I'm watching here.
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Originally Posted by ragman1
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Originally Posted by lawson-stone
The sound of the guitar is exelent in take 2.
Best
Kris
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Originally Posted by lawson-stone
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Originally Posted by lawson-stone
JohnLast edited by John A.; 01-08-2021 at 10:14 PM.
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I uploaded this years ago probably intending to clean it up and repost. Maybe I finally will. I like the general feel, but there obvious a lot that is clumsy about it. I love the tune though.
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The bridge is tricky on this one. I had to think about the phrasing. But easier for me, harder for chord melody-ists.
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Here’s my solution to the bridge so far:
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Originally Posted by Peterson
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Here is one chorus of soloing. I didn't feel the need to play the melody again for these purposes. I think it's better to keep it short if I'm asking people to listen to my hobbyist efforts.
I must say that playing to tracks is a challenge. Not being able to interact with a live drummer makes playing fresh ideas more difficult.
I guess that's it for this month, I will be back for the next tune..........
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Originally Posted by alpop
Inspiring! Thank you alpop!
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Originally Posted by hohoho
If you have the recording gear, why don't you contribute some of your own playing to the thread? The more the merrier!
Alan
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Originally Posted by alpop
I usually post in the end of the month, but since you asked and I do record improvs almost every day already.
Two improvised choruses, sorry about that.
Ragman: no backing this time, maybe later
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[QUOTE=hohoho;1090949]Hmm... maybe super technique can be a limitation?
I usually post in the end of the month, but since you asked and I do record improvs almost every day already.
Two improvised choruses, sorry about that.
Nicely done! Sorry, I am new to participating to this thread so I didn't know that you posted your playing. I hope I didn't rush you. No worries about doing two choruses, I may try that myself next time. Keep up the good work! Improvising on these tunes is like working on a fascinating puzzle, and I find it very interesting to hear everyone's approach.
I'm not sure about the ability to play fast being a limitation though. I'd sure love to be able to pop in some 16th note runs every once in a while!
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I'll not desert this thread or these tunes. This one is worthy of no less respect than Whisper Not, or any other. They're the same in my view, completely.
So here is a work of art, just done this morning. Take one, and the outcome of literally years of sweat and tears. That's the way it is, and as it should be.
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This is a really nice song. I’ll
record a version if I get a chance.
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Originally Posted by ragman1
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I haven't deserted either. I've been working on the melody, especially since I wasn't familiar with the tune at all. I also hope to up the tempo a bit and do another more competent take than the first one. I plan to get that done this week or early next.
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I really hope people don't see the "jam session" thread as taking away from the practical standards...that was not my intention at all.
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Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
You ran with the idea and gave us a really fun place to work on that other part of the jazz repertoire, and I think the quicker format is going to be interesting as well.
Thanks for taking this on!
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Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
(A month for one tune is quite long)
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Originally Posted by ragman1
You have to practise jazz tunes all life.
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Originally Posted by ragman1
The more advanced players who think that's too long maybe should think more of trying to demonstrate all the amazing, unusual, alternative, mind-blowing ideas one could bring to the tune.
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Lawson -
I think there's no doubt that for chord melody players, aside from those who have other responsibilities, it takes time to get there properly.
For myself, once I've done it a few times I reckon I've got it. Enough, anyway. After that, it all becomes a bit spurious and what one thinks is 'different' isn't really, it's more a search for the novel and becomes a bit unnecessary.
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Originally Posted by ragman1
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By novel I mean, basically, getting weird or strange just for the sake of it, or trying to be clever and ending up pretentious. I've fallen into that one myself and quickly threw them away!
It is possible to find something genuinely different and interesting to do with a tune but it takes a lot of skill, experience and musical sense. Can't say I've mastered that yet but I'm very impressed when others do it.
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Oddly enough when I pick up the guitar and just start improvising at random I always tend to play the same few tunes. Quite often it’s Stella or All the things for example. It always seems possible to come up with a new idea or two if I bash away long enough, I treat it as a sort of improv workout. I think those ideas then transfer subconsciously to other tunes as well.
Bill Evans used to play the same tunes a lot, he could obviously keep getting fresh ideas from them.
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Just before this ends, I thought of reducing the tune to its bare essentials. The progression is really just:
C - % - F - %
G7 - % - C - G7 (B7)
Em - B7 - Em - D7
G - % - D7 - G7
That's what I played, no subs. It doesn't always work but it did with this one.
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