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Originally Posted by lawson-stone
Listen to this completely unsentimental version of "Body and Soul." It is completely devoid of the original emotion if you ask me. Tal does that all the time. Wonderfully unemotional and highly intellectual!
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12-31-2020 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Dutchbopper
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I think we should be pretty clear on some things. No one's talking about tawdry emotion or sentimentality. The forum is awash with advice from various posters about going back to the original song when presented with a new or unfamiliar tune. The point is that the words give meaning to the tune, they give context to it. I see nothing wrong with that, do you? Of course, being jazz, one can then take the tune and do what one likes with it. We understand that.
Then there's the difference between one's own personal, subjective emotions and feeling. By feeling I don't mean personal emotions. I mean feeling for the music, feeling for life, feeling for beauty, and so on. The two are as different as chalk and cheese.
On the Tony Rice thread, a poster commented below one of Rice's recordings:
Few people have the facility to play flawlessly at great speed AND with such feeling.
I'm sorry Lawson feels the the way he does. No one's trying to 'get inside his head' and all that stuff, certainly not me. I've no idea what he's thinking and feeling! How would I know? Nor does it interest me at all, none of my business. So I think we went to somewhere strange on that one.
What I said to him about his playing was very complimentary. I liked what he did. Any comments, as I explained before, were meant to compliment and augment his performance. You must take that or leave it. I can't be responsible for anyone misinterpreting what I'm talking about, especially after it was already explained.
Anyway, sorry if you're all having great objections to something. Like I said before, never my intention. And I think one should always play with feeling, don't you? Otherwise it's all bit arid. In my view, anyway.
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Originally Posted by Dutchbopper
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Originally Posted by ragman1
So like I said, i don't know what you want from my performance on that score.
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This is the mood of the original
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Originally Posted by lawson-stone
Oh, happy new year, by the way. Personally, I'm waiting for Jan 20 when they finally get rid of that ghastly little man. No, really. Sorry!
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Originally Posted by christianm77
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Originally Posted by christianm77
Looks like optimistic version of the ballad.
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Originally Posted by ragman1
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He hasn't put it up yet but I think it'll be 'More Than You Know'. To be honest, I've already done it... quite nice :-)
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Originally Posted by ragman1
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Originally Posted by ragman1
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Here’s a very creative version of the song, with harmony as colourful and distinctive as the shirt:
For me Darn That Dream is one of those chord melodies that write themselves, like All The Things You Are and other tunes where there’s a lot of harmony in the melody. So
a lot of chord/melody arrangements tend to end up sharing a lot of DNA even where they don’t influence each other directly. I see a lot of shared stuff in Lawson and my versions of the tune for example.
A lot of contemporary players seem to be intent on finding a way out of this. You might also want to check out Lage Lund and Kurt Rosenwinkel’s versions for example.
Or you might think ‘if it ain’t broke’
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Originally Posted by christianm77
I need to work more on harmonic interest, more voice movement, decent fills, and some fresh "grips." The last 4-5 years I've mainly been trying to develop my non-existent line-playing, so actually I was a better solo chord-melody player 10 years ago than I am today. I guess that's why Joe Pass means a lot to me, his solo playing incorporates so many great lines and very solid voicings of chords as well.
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Yes, one thing with Joe is that he does a lot with quite standard materials... also the feel is amazing
But even without all those cool sounding books (none of which I’ve read, much less practiced) with DTD, you have the melody and put the bass under it and - well the middle voices slot in...
Which is great, especially for those new to CM, and there’s no doubt it works great!
but I’d be interested to see if I can come up with fresh things on it.
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Talking about Joe, I was meaning to post this but never did.
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All right, Lawson, here's a CM on this. It's not quite my thing, as you know. I mean, I know the chords, etc, so I'm just getting round it. It goes rubato to swing and back again, which is something, but there's nothing inventive about it. I don't study this genre enough. A proper electric guitar and decent sound would help. Who knows, one day
Oh, it's got lots and lots of feeling... not :-)
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This is what I managed to record today; compare to the other one I did four years ago above :-) searching for something on this tune
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Groovy overdrive, man :-)
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Haha, for some reason all my playing videos seem to distort on phone speakers at full volume. They sound much cleaner on laptop speakers...
Acoustic Hofner 455 or 456?
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