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    August 2018 - After You've Gone

    Our standard for Aug 2018 will be After You've Gone (Henry Creamer, Turner Layton, 1918).

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    Uh .. Good choice .. Happy 100 years to that one

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    No. 34 on the Jazz Standards' top 300. (We've already tackled the 33 above it.) You're welcome to join us and post something!

    From JazzStandards.com:

    Creamer and Layton’s “After You’ve Gone,” joins “St. Louis Blues” (1914) and “Indiana” (1917) as the top three pre-1920s jazz standards. Few compositions of the early 20th century endured the transition to the smooth swing sound of the 1930s and beyond.

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    So you opened the New Realbook II on page 6 with last month's tune (Ain't Misbehaving) looked to the left and there it was, August tune on page 5 "After You've Gone".

    Smooth!



    I like this one:

    Last edited by DonEsteban; 08-01-2018 at 06:37 AM.

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    Can I post a video from my band here?
    It's not a guitar only, but I'm playing rhythm guitar on it. xD


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    I love and play this tune live a lot, but nothing recorded that I know of. And I've been practicing it to the backup track on youtube for a long time, the track is by Gonzalo Bergara, a great young Gypsy jazz player, super good! A few days ago it so happened I played a gig with him, it was so much fun. But I forgot to tell him I've been practicing to his rhythm for all this time haha!

    Anyway, I rarely record anything to backups, unless I play it myself, but this time I just thought why not, and I know he loves teles, so here...


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    Sounds great Anton!

    I have a tough time with this tune...my ear really wants the second half of the B section to do something different that it does, and I've had the damndest time convincing my ear that it's not correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont View Post
    Sounds great Anton!

    I have a tough time with this tune...my ear really wants the second half of the B section to do something different that it does, and I've had the damndest time convincing my ear that it's not correct.
    Thanks Jeff! Yea the B part is a little weird, my guess the lyrics started the song, so the form is made to fit them, but it's not the most comfortable to improvise over for sure. But I love the melody a lot, and the lyrics, it's simple, but soulful.

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    re. B part -

    I see the Dm section as Dm/A7 then Dm/G7- C ... only they've subbed the backdoor Bb7 for the G7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragman1 View Post
    Let's get this over with before I think of something more interesting!

    So you took the fast lane...


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    You said it :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragman1 View Post
    Let's get this over with before I think of something more interesting!
    Rags, is this video accelerated by 25 - 50%? It sounds a bit like it, but it even more so looks like it -- especially when you are applying vibrato.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M-ster View Post
    Rags, is this video accelerated by 25 - 50%? It sounds a bit like it, but it even more so looks like it -- especially when you are applying vibrato.
    I thought the original take was a bit dull so I speeded it up x2... so it's still in C only an octave above :-)

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    it sounds awesome at that speed
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    Alright, let's try this one...

    I think I want to do a slow bluesy one this month too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clebergf View Post
    Can I post a video from my band here?
    It's not a guitar only, but I'm playing rhythm guitar on it. xD

    This is a great slower bluesy take...I want to do one like this too...great stuff.

    What are you playing rhythm on, c?
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    Back in the day, I used to duet with my old buddy Chris, who was pretty good, and this tune was one of our staples. Always went down well.

    That was in G and for those who remember that thread about the strange Mickey Baker chord D13b5b9, pictured as an Ab7#9, this is what I'm using here (I've been using it for a long time). At the end of the verse it goes 'After you've gone away'. The chord on 'gone' should be a D7 but I'm playing it Am7 - Ab7#9 (464577) - G.

    Works a treat here but it's not so hot in C. Probably the nearest is Dm7 - Db7#9 - C6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont View Post
    Alright, let's try this one...

    I think I want to do a slow bluesy one this month too.

    Great take there.

    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont View Post
    This is a great slower bluesy take...I want to do one like this too...great stuff.

    What are you playing rhythm on, c?
    Thanks Mr. B. I'm playing a Godin 5th Avenue recorded with two mics acoustic only.
    Last edited by clebergf; 08-04-2018 at 10:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragman1 View Post
    I thought the original take was a bit dull so I speeded it up x2... so it's still in C only an octave above :-)
    Cheater!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive View Post
    Cheater!
    Maybe :-)

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    August 2018 - After You've Gone

    Most people think of “After you’ve gone” as an up-tempo tune, but the earliest recordings (until the late ‘20s) are mostly slow or moderate. This early recording is a prize, starting off with a lovely almost bluesy guitar/vocal duo on the bridge before the band enters for the chorus. I’m working on a guitar solo version in a similar spirit, but I need more time to clean it up.

    I have a hard time believing this version was really recorded by Marion Harris in 1918. There’s another recording of her singing this tune and the voice quality and singing style is much different. The instruments also seem to be playing in a later style. In any case, it’s a great take.
    Last edited by KirkP; 08-04-2018 at 01:18 PM.

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    Lovely, Kirk. I always thought if it's going to be slow then it should be blues, medium then swing, and 'jazz' then double tempo - as they did, of course.

    Thing is it's a strange tune, not quite ballad, not quite blues. The progression is redolent of a standard blues, but the melody isn't quite. Which, I suppose, is why it's interpretable in so many different styles.

    But thanks for that, lovely stuff.

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    Many singer do verse slow and bluesy, and then kick in with a fast chorus. To me that's the best way to play it. If there's no singer, no verse, I'd prefer a fast treatment of the chorus, it feels too long and draggy to do the whole thing slow.

    Of course, I was never a big fan of ballads, maybe once every 4-5 songs on a gig...

    I like the challenge too, playing fast tempos is FUN, I don't think we have enough of fast jazz tunes on the forum posted lately, or ever... And this one is perfect for it!

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    August 2018 - After You've Gone

    Playing tunes at a slower tempo can be challenging too. You can play around with the rhythm, harmony, multiple voices, etc. in any case, I like to learn ‘em at an easy tempo and accelerate once I know the tune better. But it’s fun to hear the tune interpreted in a lot of ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KirkP View Post
    Playing tunes at a slower tempo can be challenging too. You can play around with the rhythm, harmony, multiple voices, etc. in any case, I like to learn ‘em at an easy tempo and accelerate once I know the tune better. But it’s fun to hear the tune interpreted in a lot of ways.
    Totally man! Variety is the spice of life, the more different versions the better, all is good.

    It was more of an observation that mostly it's pretty things, ballads or near ballads in general that prevalent on the forum... I might be wrong of course... Personally, wanna hear more attitude/speed/devil may care type sometimes...

    But never mind me, looking forward yours and everyone else take! Great tune, people.

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    Last edited by M-ster; 08-05-2018 at 11:13 PM.

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    August 2018 - After You've Gone

    Quote Originally Posted by M-ster View Post
    Yeah! Nice easy swing with hip bluesy voicings/phrashing.

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    Perfect, Mark. 100% there definitely!

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    I cut my teeth learning rags. Here’s a rough sketch of After You’ve Gone in G in that style. I left the recorder running over many repeats, so feel free to stop midway or skip altogether if that style wouldn’t appeal to you. The photos were added to allow me to upload to youtube instead of posting an audio file.

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    Mr. B, Nice version. I hope you can find the time to record a slow bluesy version of the song too.

    I'm having problems working out a solo for this song that I'm happy with. I've got the changes, melody and a CM version down but am having issues working out a solo that I feel is worth posting.

    Looking for ideas and inspiration.


    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont View Post
    Alright, let's try this one...

    I think I want to do a slow bluesy one this month too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramps View Post

    Looking for ideas and inspiration.
    Those will come the more you play with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragman1 View Post
    Those will come the more you play with it.
    Working on it but it never hurts to listen to a more advanced player for ideas.

    I'm sure Mr. B doesn't think it's expected of him. It was just a wishful request. No pressure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramps View Post
    Working on it but it never hurts to listen to a more advanced player for ideas.
    alright alright, if you're gunna pull my arm I'll see what I can do

    lol
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    Joe,

    Please do.

    Like I said, looking for ideas and inspiration. It's really not hard to find someone who's more advanced than me.
    Last edited by Gramps; 08-10-2018 at 02:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramps View Post
    Joe,

    Please do.

    Like I said, looking for ideas and inspiration.
    i don't think you want my ideas! hey, where ya been on the solo guitar thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by joe2758 View Post
    i don't think you want my ideas! hey, where ya been on the solo guitar thread?
    I still learn the songs that interest me but personally get bored with just guitar, no band or bed track. I know others in that group feel differently about it. I still get what I want out of it and everyone's happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramps View Post
    Working on it but it never hurts to listen to a more advanced player for ideas.
    That's included in it, listening to others, research, whatever it takes. Plus your own ideas. No vacuums.

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    Yea Ragman, you're right.

    Even though I'm always looking for an easy way to progress I know that working through it is the only way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramps View Post
    Yea Ragman, you're right.

    Even though I'm always looking for an easy way to progress I know that working through it is the only way.
    I reckon.

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    Where can I get the tabs for this??

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    Quote Originally Posted by goinbaroke View Post
    Where can I get the tabs for this??
    For what exactly? The tune 'After You've Gone'? There are one or two online, I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragman1 View Post
    For what exactly? The tune 'After You've Gone'? There are one or two online, I believe.

    I found them Ragman, looking for solo tabs only, thanks.

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